Posted 25 Jan 2022 @BethAnnBitt, you have my deepest sympathy. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 25 Jan 2022 42 minutes ago, optimista said: What word would you like me to use to describe a minority feature? Are you reading my attitude wrongly ? There's this thing called unconditional love. I don't think your daughter feels that. She has lived through all of this crap between you and your husband and she knows all of it. We sometimes think that kids don't know but they do. Staying together does not a stable home make. What is she learning from you about relationships? I was definitely not a perfect parent and it effected my boys in different ways. Luckily, they both forgave me and I was all good with my oldest son before he passed. My other son and myself are now thick as thieves and talk almost every day. I got a second chance and I am forever grateful for that. Not all parents do. 10 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 25 Jan 2022 1 hour ago, BethAnnBitt said: Dear @optimista, My insight is to accept that your child is an independent being and to express your unconditional love each and every day. In the last phone call my son and I had I said I love you and I’ll talk to you tomorrow and he said back Me too mom. When tomorrow came we didn’t get to talk again, but today I have the gift of that conversation. Think about it. Yours truly, A mother whose irreplaceable treasure died on January 17, 2010 at the tender age of 21 😢😢😢🥲🥲🥲🥲🥲🥲 Dear BethAnnBitt😩 That is truly sad. A child should always outlive their parents. Way too young to be taken away from you. My heartfelt sympathies. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 25 Jan 2022 48 minutes ago, optimista said: Typical and normal are not the same. Typical or atypical is not judgmental in my book. Which is why I said atypical. The human race is typically heterosexual. Surely. I do not consider homosexuality to be abnormal. You (and others) seem to assume I do. It is a feature. A minority of the population is gay. So atypical. I am not with hubby. I am financially trapped. Complicated. Kid has both parents in one household. I don t see what makes you think she has had an unstable life. Do i also read that I am not respectful of my daughter ? More flummoxation. Edit... @ BAB. Sorry about your loss. Of course my lo is independent. No question. I see several problems here... "typical" is a word that should be banned. Like "normal" in German. You financially being trapped - get help. I'm sure there are lawyers out there who can help. Even bona fide. You are not respectful of your daughter telling everybody that she's lesbian. She may have made that public, but does everyone you know read her posts? - Duh. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 25 Jan 2022 FWIW... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dana_Simpson 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 25 Jan 2022 53 minutes ago, Sannerl said: I see several problems here... "typical" is a word that should be banned. Like "normal" in German. You financially being trapped - get help. I'm sure there are lawyers out there who can help. Or get a job. You know, like, "work". 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 25 Jan 2022 Usual TT communication fail. Sigh. And chips. On shoulders. I fear for my daughter. Really I do. Not flummoxed at all by your responses. Usual shite. Still waiting to be educated in appropriate, non offensive vocab to enable open discussion of the subject. Over to you Alex. On second thoughts, please don t bother. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 25 Jan 2022 25 minutes ago, optimista said: Usual TT communication fail. Sigh. And chips. On shoulders. I fear for my daughter. Really I do. Not flummoxed at all by your responses. Usual shite. Still waiting to be educated in appropriate, non offensive vocab to enable open discussion of the subject. Over to you Alex. On second thoughts, please don t bother. Well - I did answer in your terms. If you don't like the kind of advice you get (the umptiest time), it doesn't make it "shite" - and maybe the "TT communication fail" is on you? Yes: your constantly outing your daughter makes her life difficult. Just let her do it her way without interfering your way. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 25 Jan 2022 All I wanted to do was to post a photo this evening. No, this stuff about accepted file types and picture too big.🙁 Maybe another day. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 25 Jan 2022 19 minutes ago, john g. said: All I wanted to do was to post a photo this evening. No, this stuff about accepted file types and picture too big.🙁 Maybe another day. Please follow the instructions in here to reduce the photo size to 240 KB so as to be able to post it: 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 25 Jan 2022 Thank you, Panda❤️ My God... complicated. 😩🤭 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 25 Jan 2022 6 minutes ago, john g. said: My God... complicated. 😩🤭 I use the Force. Did you try that option? 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 25 Jan 2022 8 minutes ago, john g. said: Thank you, Panda❤️ My God... complicated. 😩🤭 It's already small enough John... I think the TT image thingy is just very temperamental. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 25 Jan 2022 I tried a Warsteiner! Didn't work!😂 But a helpful Toytowner has stepped in and is dabei!👍 Edit: Bless you, Eric❤️ Yeah, sent my cat- loving daughter in Amsterdam a floor mat. She got it today and her cats reacted!😂 And my daughter is delighted. Which means- me, too!❤️❤️❤️ 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 25 Jan 2022 3 minutes ago, Eric7 said: It's already small enough John... I think the TT image thingy is just very temperamental. If you first tried to upload a too big image, you need to do a refresh of the page before again attempting to attach it: 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 25 Jan 2022 2 minutes ago, PandaMunich said: If you first tried to upload a too big image, you need to do a refresh of the page before again attempting to attach it: I've had it reject images which were already well below 200kb the very first time I tried to embed them but after reloading the page the very same image worked. I think the system could do with some tweaks in that regard... such a low limit might have been ok back in the day but not now. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 25 Jan 2022 It simply baffles me! It was one picture! All I can say is I love Eric and Panda and my daughter, who is delighted! She has a bunch of black cats! 😂 ( Mostly very naughty ones!).. Edit: sent my quarantined neighbour a pic of the floor mat. Wants one!😂 He doesn't have cats! Edit: he doesn't have Jaffa cakes and cheese and milk, either! Now in front of his door! What a world...only a few feet away. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 26 Jan 2022 12 hours ago, Sannerl said: I see several problems here... "typical" is a word that should be banned. Like "normal" in German. You financially being trapped - get help. I'm sure there are lawyers out there who can help. Even bona fide. You are not respectful of your daughter telling everybody that she's lesbian. She may have made that public, but does everyone you know read her posts? - Duh. This is an uphill battle. Some folks who learned that they never had to care about the feelings of minorities or really anyone who didn't conform to what they think is normal or usual cannot be taught differently. (very pointed bold) Let's leave it at: To receive love, one must first give love. To receive kindness, one must first practice kindness. To be understood, one must first seek to understand. In the absence of that, life will be lonely, harsh, and confusing. We only need to look at the vent thread to see this is how life is for her. I wish her all the kindness, understanding, and love she puts out in the world. 8 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 27 Jan 2022 On 25/01/2022, 21:08:12, Sannerl said: Your constantly (pardon me?) outing your daughter makes her life difficult. Just let her do it her way without interfering your way. FYI: I have told a few select people she herself does not even know. How does this make her life difficult? Especially since she is most definitely, unashamedly (good on her) out of the closet. Unlike her very damaged (seems to be a lot of that about) father. Why do you think I have a problem with homosexuals? I have gay friends. I do have a problem being a beard and taking 30 years to establish that beyond reasonable doubt (two colours of shit on one pair of undies - and he is still pretending) that it is the case. Who wouldn't? I guess "prevalent" would have been a better word to use than "fashionable". Will that trigger anyone today? Still open to being educated in appropriate vocab when discussing homosexuality. I await your input. Kindly refrain from shouty abuse. I know you are loving folk and will rise to that challenge. For the record, I use the Vent thread to dump my shit. And what a pile of it there is. I guess you are getting a lopsided view of my persona. But you seem to know more about me than I do. You could also read Tell Me Something Good for the sake of balance. Can't help noticing that thread hasn't really taken off... which is flummoxing. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 27 Jan 2022 We are firmly in "Some of my best friends are gay" territory. *puke* And, oh, get a job. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites