What the hell have I done to my knee?

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On 3/21/2022, 10:52:04, jeba said:

I'd make an appointment with a radiologist for an MRI in 3 weeks now already as you'll probably get a referral for a MRI and that way you'd already have an appointment without another longer wait. Should you not get a referral for a MRI, you can always cancel it.

 

Sound, practical, time saving advice.

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If you do have a miniscus problem then you need to take it easy with the knee. I had a miniscus rip that ruined a trip to Paris (thank goodness I did not walk up the Eiiffel tower when the lifts were out of operation) almost necessitating surgery. I changed my exercise from 4km walking a day to 20km exercise bike and then dropped down to 10km and do a couple of km walking every couple of days. 

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I damaged my knee a few weeks ago. Tendinitus. Keeping it warm and trying not to put too much weight on it. I wrap a fleece blanket around my knees at night to stop them getting cold. I woke every 2 hours from the pain but keeping it warm seems to help. I put to much weight on it, it got cold and I tore the muscles surrounding the knee cap. Nasty. I know the doctor will just give me painkillers so I am trying my best to let it heal by itself before I go to a professional. It has improved the past few days so it seems resting and keeping it warm has helped.

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Good luck with self-diagnosing. Has never worked for me. That is why I have health insurance.

 

Still and all, I do wish you a swift recovery. Pain sucks.

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44 minutes ago, fraufruit said:

Good luck with self-diagnosing. Has never worked for me. That is why I have health insurance.

 

Still and all, I do wish you a swift recovery. Pain sucks.

 

I have health insurance as well, my doctor has offered steroid shots or pain killers. I prefer trying the natural way first before the former. It is getting better, then I will consider the latter... pain killers and steroid shots...

 

By a professional, I mean my GP/Hausarzt referring me to a physiotherapist... which won't happen unless the above don't work (steroids and painkillers)

 

And yes I was at my GP before about this issue. Sadly we have curative not preventative medicine... that's the way it is.

 

Thanks fraufruit. Yes pain sucks :(

 

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After bad advice I got about severe, debilitating pain after MRT, I finally went to a specialist. Saved my life. My GP meant well when sending me to PT but it was the worst thing I could have done. After a year, I'm finally having some relief after seeing the specialist.

 

Oh, and I did nothing for some months hoping it would heal itself. Bad choice in my case.

 

I caved  into a cortisone injection that did the trick but I don't know how long it will last. 

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i had an accident while playing beach volleyball in 2020 sept. First Ortho said we would do non surgical treatment with metal casts and later physio sessions.

 

Come 2021, pain and lack of stability still there. Go to Ortho no. 2 based on reviews. He recommends surgery - a combination of orthoscopy and open 9 cm. Post operation 1 month of rehab  + multiple sessions of physio

 

Pain is less but still there. Cycling is good, but can't run and walking is painful. I go back to the doctor, he says, its in my mind :unsure:. Says people do olympics after operation and so i need to push myself. But i am sure, its not a phantom pain.

 

So am confused if the operation was really necessary and what should be my next course.

 

I plan to give 6 months of intense workout with my knee to see where i stand

 

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7 minutes ago, RajeshG said:

I go back to the doctor, he says, its in my mind

 

Never ever go back to that doc.

 

You can really fuck it up with intense workout. Although, if you can do it, it must not be so bad.

 

I couldn't do anything with my shoulders including dressing myself and house chores. I used to plank every day. Impossible.

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Kid#3, after doing stuff which is no longer ok to write about on the open internetty, but stuff you would regularly do to train for, lets call them The Green Team, has been left with a terrible pain in her chest which is intermittant, often either not there, or only slight, sometimes a dull ache and then occasionally a real painful literally breathtaking stabbing pain. Debilitating and unable to work type pain.

 

So far they have x-rayed, her, shoved her in a tube and done some kind of imaging, and done heart type tests, and there's nothing wrong. 4-5 weeks later no change. Physio 4 sessions done, then she moved from her initial training place to het home base, and has just got a script for lots more physio.

 

Presumably she has hurt muscle tissue. A friend who was a physio for a different Green Team for 30 years discovered she has very flat feet and got her orthotics. She is not convinced that the chest pain is related to the badly arranged balance and back musculature she has going on because of the flat feet.

 

How do you know what muscles you've damaged - eg. those who have described their issues above - process of elimination? Symptoms make it obvious to someone? My worry is that the physio, without actually knowing what's wrong, will make it worse.

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A proper and clear diagnosis is key. I was told last year after an MRI that I had a torn rotator cuff and was sent to PT. I did the recommended exercises for a few months and it got worse, so I stopped. Lo and behold, my other shoulder became more painful than the original one. After another MRI, I went to a shoulder specialist at the Schön Klinik. He said they were both frozen - no torn rotator cuff. Torn tendon and inflammation. By then, the first shoulder had healed a lot and now it is almost normal with no treatment. I had to get the cortisone in the other one. I can put on some of my shirts and jackets now with no assistance. I'm also sleeping. Heavenly!!!

 

Kid#3 is young and is getting blown off with no clear dx. I smell gaslighting because they can't find the problem. It happens. Often. Especially with women.

 

 

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Chinese massage therapy, also known as Tui Na, is particularly effective in treating musculoskeletal conditions. The trouble, as with other forms of medical interventions, is finding a good practitioner.

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44 minutes ago, Boggsdollocks said:

Chinese massage therapy, also known as Tui Na, is particularly effective in treating musculoskeletal conditions. The trouble, as with other forms of medical interventions, is finding a good practitioner.

 

And being sure it is just muscular.

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On 3/12/2022, 10:31:11, snowingagain said:

So I hurt my knee.  Not walking, or swimming or at the gymn.  But in bed.  And alone in bed doing nothing wild (watching Wallander).  I just shuffled up the bed and something happened to my left knee.  Not swollen.  But cannot bend it much.  Can walk if careful.  Can even go upstairs.  But not raise knee, or try to pull shoe off, or go downstairs without severe pain.    Any ideas?  I have been a bit lazy sportwise since just before Xmas.  Could kick myself.  Though that is tricky at the moment.

This happened to me years ago - I woke up with a sprained knee. I was young and healthy. My dentist, a woman in her late 50s, told me last week that it happened to her. 

It just happens. You should be OK in a few days.

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On 4/2/2022, 6:18:20, Anna66 said:

I damaged my knee a few weeks ago. Tendinitus. Keeping it warm and ...

I have been running too many marathons between 1988 and now and suffered a lot from tendinitis (not knees yet, tough).

You should NOT warm the tendons. Warmth will give it a good feeling, so it's obviously tempting. However, it will also worse the inflammation, that's why you better avoid it. You should rather cool it, like with the blue bag in the fridge or freezer (if from the freezer, use a towel, otherwise you burn the skin). And you should cool it especially after the effort (which of course you should avoid).

Good luck.

 

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The Germans are really into this warm thing. Kid#3 has a script for 10 warm sessions :mellow: - also 10 physio and 10 massage, I think - points for dumping the problem onto someone else when they still don't know what's wrong with her...

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Warm sessions are stupid here. You can do the same at home with a Heizkissen. Will she have 30 sessions in total or 10 sessions including all. When I did the 10 sessions, it was 10 min. physio, 10 min. massage and 10 min. lying on a hot pack. So the therapist worked with me for 20 min. each time. That was many years ago but to me, it wasn't worth going over and stripping down.

 

I hope it is better now.

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10 of each. 30 in all. It's not anyone's money in that sense, so no-one cares. 

 

If she knew who to go see for an actual diagnosis, I'm sure they would agree to it, just that she doesn't know (and nor do we) who the appropriate person/speciality would be.

 

She has just tested covid positive, and was expected to leave immediately, so a 4 hr drive there and back to fetch her, and the chest thing again on the back burner. She can find a sport physio online and book for after her 10 days I guess. 

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So.  My knee.  Dr thought perhaps lateral miniscus after manipulating my knee (causing me to swear a bit).  Good news is, that it is nothing is torn,   Some swelling.   Which I guess explains why it got better in the last 3 weeks.  He has advised physio, and lots of sport.   And knee support or keiso tape.   Only thing he advised against was football (am heartbroken).

 

Separate to that the Xrays showed up early signs of arthritis.   Exercise helps for that of course.  Plus he said to cut down on red meat and sugar.  I really very little of either.  But will explore other diet things that are supposed to help.

 

Thanks for all your help and suggestions.  My knee really hurts know.  He flexed it in the owy direction a few times.  He offered also acupuncture.  Has anyone any positive experience of this?  I would prefer to hear from people who have actually had it, rather than the totally reasonable but none the less ranty things about quacks.  Ta.

 

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