To the Australians: Why are you here in Germany?

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that's true...but so do the Ozzies and the Kiwis!!

The Ozzies definitely sound funny, but the Kiwis just sound awesome

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The Australians and New Zealanders that along well with Yanks are always the bogan yobbo types. Look at all the Australian actors in Hollywood, Eric Bana, Russell Crowe, Hugh Jackman, and Mel Gibson(who is really a Yank but I consider him Australian).

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Look at all the Australian actors in Hollywood... Russell Crowe

The telephone throwing tanty chief was actually born in NZ.

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Yeah, but grew up and was socialised in Australia, thus explaining his behaviour

LOL! Good one. The man is a bit of a turd.

 

You lot are ruining my image of Australia. In the late 80s, America went through a deep infactuation with Oz. Australian pop culture was very trendy here. Its not often we like a place better than our own. ;)

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No doubt, but I would also propose that his Maori heritage, and family connections to EnZed's famous cricketing brothers, the Crowes, inspired his phone throwing moment. Otherwise he would have bowled it underarm.

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Pretty interesting response (as a European I'd always have thought Australia would be the more desirable place to live). Perhaps it's just that those responding here have found Germany more compatible with their lifestyles? The comments do seem to follow though (dangerous wildlife, high temperatures, the water shortages in Victoria at the moment and the sprawling cities) but I haven't experience Australia myself.

 

I'd love to see a America / Germany comparison as that would be the direction I would lean in for permanent migration. From a UK perspective I can't say Germany has impressed me that much more than home. Munich is safer, more compact and cheaper for certain things I guess. Perhaps it's partially because I haven't really done the Alps yet or explored some of the lakes to the south of the city?

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(as a European I'd always have thought Australia would be the more desirable place to live)

The grass is always greener on the other side of the fence.

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The comments do seem to follow though (dangerous wildlife, high temperatures, the water shortages in Victoria at the moment and the sprawling cities) but I haven't experience Australia myself.

I think you have to separate comments from those people that wish to stay here permanently, and those who view this perhaps as a temporary experience to broaden horizons, since the former will have found distinct reasons to stay, whereas the latter will retain distinct reasons to return.

Also, most of the comments seem to have been made from a Brisbane or Sydney, which although great cities from their own perspective, are not two that I would choose to move to. Despite this personal preference, this makes this discussion one that is difficult to generalise on a complete "Australia v Germany" meme, not that this would be too easy a task anyway.

 

But, back on track to your comment for a second, the first of your points, "dangerous wildlife", is a bollocks excuse to not move to Australia, and a completely European/American-centric idea of what Australia is all about. Fine, yes, there is some shit that will kick your arse, but generally you'll find that big city life will be the same as any first world country.

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I have never been to Australia. Then again I have never been to Zimbabwe either and guess which one I would prefer as a home? Dangerous wildlife? Its not like I live in fear of sharks, timber rattlers, gila monsters or grizzlies, all of which are lethal to some extent.

 

The complaints about Australia could be the same complaints about most if not all places.

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The complaints about Australia could be the same complaints about most if not all places.

Zero dangerous wildlife where I'm from...until you step into the sea.

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Pretty interesting response (as a European I'd always have thought Australia would be the more desirable place to live).

This seems to be the concensus, but I would just like to know why. I encounter people all the time, who as soon as I say I'm from Australia, reply with "What are you doing here then?!". Then I ask why they think Australia is a good place. Normally the mention the weather and the beach. We've been over the weather before, and sure there is the beach but that can't surely be enough. Maybe because they associate sun and the beach with holidays it automatically draws them to it. To be honest, I think a lot of people here take what they have here for granted.

 

 

Perhaps it's partially because I haven't really done the Alps yet or explored some of the lakes to the south of the city?

I would definitely say that could be a reason. The country side, lakes and mountains are the best part about living here.

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Zero dangerous wildlife where I'm from...until you step into the sea.

The point was that dangerous wildlife is a specious complaint. Common sense will prevail whether one is deep in the Outback or Yellowstone.

 

I have never been to NZ. No venemous snakes or the like? I did a class report on your country when I was 11 and have been fascinated ever since. Looks pretty cool. :)

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I have never been to NZ. No venemous snakes or the like?

No snakes at all, let alone poisonous ones, there's a venomous spider but it's not dangerous at all. The only danger you have in NZ is when you get into the ocean

 

I did a class report on your country when I was 11 and have been fascinated ever since. Looks pretty cool.

I like the nature in NZ, but the city life aint so top notch

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I have never been to Australia. Then again I have never been to Zimbabwe either and guess which one I would prefer as a home? Dangerous wildlife? Its not like I live in fear of sharks, timber rattlers, gila monsters or grizzlies, all of which are lethal to some extent.

What about Mugabe? If he isnt dangerous wildlife I dont know what is!

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For qualified positions in Engineering, Scientific Research, Management, and Finance, Germany offers much higher salaries, but then again, why go to Germany? The US offers even higher salaries in these fields, I recall the story of an Indonesian graduate of RWTH Aachen who was asked to leave Germany after 5 years but was offered a very high paid position with a company in Silicon Valley. A relative of mine who graduated from an MBA program in the US(ranked in the top 5 in the US) was offered a position in New York with a total starting compensation package of $250,000US with bonus, few German investment bankers in Frankfurt earn that much as a starting income, in fact that is unheard of in continental Europe, salaries in Finance in Britain are much higher than anywhere on the Continent.

But in the States you have to accept the puritan work work culture, including no more six week holiday entitlement, or 12 days public holiday a year. Hire and fire, no proper social welfare net like in the EU to fall back on. And you have to live with the car-and-mall culture. You cant live from salary alone!

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