Office 365 renewal

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Since this thread is aged, I'll ask for up-to-the-minute advice:

 

I need to purchase & download an English version of Office For Mac asap. I have been caught in a loop trying to do this online. No matter how I try it, I always end up at a Deutsch-only download site.

 

This is pretty urgent. Any advice on how to do this would be welcome.

 

Or if someone has a extra license they want to sell me, that would be great.

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1. Buy the German version Anywhere Online.

2. Download the English ISO Image From Microsoft - Link

3. Install English Version using German Key.

 

OR Buy it Directly from Microsoft - Link

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On 06/10/2005, 11:29:40, PolarBear said:

Where in Germany can I buy the latest Microsoft Office software in English?

 

17 years later still asking the same question. Microsoft is really pushing Office 365 subscriptions, seems reasonable at 7€ per month but that adds up over time. And now feeling the pinch of inflation I'm looking to cut costs. So doing some googling it seems you can buy office as a one off for as little as 4€ or as much as 120€. What's odd is you can't buy it directly from Micosoft. How it is possible for prices to vary so much. 

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I followed this route. I bought Office for this peanuts sum. All good for several months, then it simply stopped working, no idea why. Bought it again for peanuts, again worked 100% good for several months, then it stopped. Fed up and went for one of the free, non-Microsoft, versions. All good since. 

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5 hours ago, Rushrush said:

So doing some googling it seems you can buy office as a one off for as little as 4€ or as much as 120€. What's odd is you can't buy it directly from Micosoft. How it is possible for prices to vary so much. 

Yes, get the "to buy" version "Microsoft Office 2021 Professional" instead of the "rental" version "Office 365".

The "rental" version "Office 365" always has the lastest features, but most people do not use them anyway, so just buying the software instead of renting it, is a no-brainer.

 

These licences for 4€ are bulk OEM licences, i.e. licences that had been bought as a package of tens of thousands and were then split up.

Microsoft tried to get this stopped by the courts, but it is legal in Germany, Germany's high court, the Bundesgerichtshof and later the European Court of Justice ruled that bulk licences are allowed to be split up and re-sold: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gebraucht-Software

  • Der Bundesgerichtshof entschied nämlich in einem richtungsweisenden Urteil im Jahr 2000, dass der Weiterverkauf von datenträgerbasierter Software grundsätzlich nicht über Lizenzbedingungen von den Herstellern eingeschränkt werden kann. Der sogenannte Erschöpfungsgrundsatz findet demnach auch Anwendung auf OEM-Lizenzen, so dass der Handel mit OEM-Software ohne Einhaltung der OEM-Bedingungen grundsätzlich für rechtswirksam erachtet wird.
    ...

    Urteil des Gerichtshofs der Europäischen Union vom 3. Juli 2012

    Der EuGH stellt fest, dass gebrauchte Software weiterverkauft werden darf, unabhängig davon, wie sie erworben worden war, dies gilt auch für durch Download gekaufte Software. Muss eine durch Download erworbene Software über das Internet aktualisiert werden, steht dieses Recht auf Aktualisierung auch dem Käufer der gebrauchten Software zu. Der verkaufende Erstkäufer, so der EuGH, darf keine Kopie der Software behalten.[9] Das ausschließliche Verbreitungsrecht des Softwareurheberrechtsinhabers ist, bezogen auf die verkaufte Kopie, erschöpft. Eine Lizenzvereinbarung, welche eine solche spätere Veräußerung untersagt, ist unwirksam.
     

  • In a landmark decision in 2000, the Federal Court of Justice ruled that the resale of data carrier-based software cannot in principle be restricted by the manufacturers through licence conditions. Accordingly, the so-called principle of exhaustion also applies to OEM licences, so that trade in OEM software without compliance with the OEM terms and conditions is generally considered legally valid.
    ...

    Judgment of the Court of Justice of the European Union of 3 July 2012
    The ECJ states that used software may be resold regardless of how it was acquired, this also applies to software purchased by download. If software acquired by download has to be updated via the internet, the buyer of the used software also has this right to update. According to the ECJ, the selling first purchaser may not keep a copy of the software.[9] The exclusive distribution right of the software copyright holder is exhausted with respect to the sold copy. A licence agreement that prohibits such a subsequent sale is invalid.

 

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I suggest buying from LizenzDoc (but go in through the Idealo price comparison link, do not search directly for it on the LizenzDoc web site or you will pay more!), they also provide a proper invoice which comes automatically by e-mail:

  1. create a free account on LizenzDoc.de
     
  2. go on the Idealo.de price comparison website, search for "Microsoft Office 2021 Professional" and then enter the LizenzDoc website through the Idealo link to buy the "Microsoft Office 2021 Professional" licence:  https://www.idealo.de/preisvergleich/OffersOfProduct/201968570_-office-2021-professional-microsoft.html
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  3. after a few hours (if you order at night, the next day), you will find the Microsoft Produkt Key (5 groups of 5 characters) in your LizenzDoc
    account, in the section "Sofortdownloads":
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  4. click on the link "Office Download", which is this URL: https://setup.office.com/
    If you already have a free Microsoft account enter your login details, if you don't yet have one, create it by clicking on "Create new account" (and
    write down your Microsoft login details, keep them in a safe place).
    --> now enter your Microsoft account login details and it will ask you to enter the Microsoft Product Key you just bought.
     
  5. it will now download and install the Microsoft Office 2021 Professional package to your PC

 

The only downside is that legally, you need to buy one licence per PC.

So if you also have a laptop, you will need to buy a second licence for it, but at 4€ per licence, that is not really a hardship.

 

This is what the invoice looks like:

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Holy crap that is what is call an answer!!!!

 

Somedays I think you an AI bot your detailed answers are just at another level, again thanks

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Be aware that an oem license is not just limited to 1 pc it is limited to that PC where it was first activated on! If you buy a new PC or replace the motherboard in the original you will need a new license!

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So my Office 365 subscription has been cancelled and I have Office, thank you so much - took a few attempts to get it downloaded but it is now on my computer. One minor change is they send the link by email rather than sofort downloads. Again thanks!!!!!

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2 hours ago, Rushrush said:

So my Office 365 subscription has been cancelled and I have Office, thank you so much - took a few attempts to get it downloaded but it is now on my computer. One minor change is they send the link by email rather than sofort downloads. Again thanks!!!!!

Thanks for the update!

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13 hours ago, neoanderson2009 said:

thanks for the excellent answer. Is it possible to install English version with this key? 

 

Yes the email has a link to both German and English

Quick  note when opening the compressed file you have two options, Set Up and Start - forget which one to click on but if you get error message simply click on the other lnk

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OK quick update: don't be an idiot like me and forget to activate it. I missed it as they put it at the end of the German instructions. Had deleted the email so had to repurchase it. No real hardship.  Just cntrl F and  Hier erhalten Sie einen Key für 1x PC-Aktivierung and you will find it. 

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