Climate change

1,928 posts in this topic

On 8/24/2019, 7:28:14, balticus said:

 

There are more wildfires burning in Angola and Congo than in Brazil.   It almost seems like the outrage over the Amazon fires is environmental agitprop.   

 

https://www.bloombergquint.com/onweb/more-fires-now-burning-in-angola-congo-than-amazon-maps

 

https://www.nasa.gov/image-feature/goddard/2016/fires-in-angola-zambia-democratic-republic-of-the-congo

 

The stories about the Amazon fires will produce a lot of hand wringing on this board, but nobody will make serious lifestyle changes, e.g. stop relying on an automobile for convenience if public transport is a viable option.   

If you knew anything about Angola, you would know that it is mostly a Savanna and open grassland, not dense forest!

The comparison is stupid because it identifies number of fires, not considering the size of them, in terms of burned biomass.

 

There are thousands of small fires ("queimadas") mostly due to small farm agricultural fires, to burn leftovers or to prepare land for new crops.

0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
23 minutes ago, MikeMelga said:

If you knew anything about Angola, you would know that it is mostly a Savanna and open grassland, not dense forest!

But Congo is not.  

23 minutes ago, MikeMelga said:

The comparison is stupid because it identifies number of fires, not considering the size of them, in terms of burned biomass.

 

Agree.  The CNN and Nat Geo articles sensationalized the issue with fire counts.  Unfortunarely, nobody objected to this methodology until same methodology went against the narrative.

 

How many years has data been collected and what is the statitstcal significance?   Given that a major trade agreement might be delayed over these fires, one would think that such relevant details would be available.  

 

 

0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
On 7/26/2019, 3:48:41, jeba said:

1 Euro spent on paying them for going green might jave a bigger effect than 1 € spent on greening Germany. So it might make sense to use some money meant for greening Germany (and comparable countries) for that purpose.

 

E. g. this could be a good aim for that kind of investment:

https://www.sharenet.co.za/news/SAfricas_ailing_Eskom_faces_emissions_violations_could_shut_plants/78d6512dce1db2a04ec8f321773d4463

 

Btw I´m wondering why there is no uproar about Trump lifting the requirement for fracking companies to restrict the release of methane - which is much more harmful than CO2.

 

1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

This a lecture given by the chap who actually used to stop atomic testing, save whales and seal pups:

 

 

 

 

0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Ah, the classic ad hominem. Clearly they never taught critical thinking at Berkeley. 

 

Here's NASA:

 

https://www.thenewamerican.com/tech/environment/item/30214-nasa-sees-climate-cooling-trend-thanks-to-low-sun-activity

 

https://moneymaven.io/mishtalk/economics/amidst-global-warming-hysteria-nasa-expects-global-cooling-SJDpCv3V4EqKSOY11A378Q/

 

Hopefully people see through that idiotic woman's "Green New Deal" with her trains to Hawaii.

0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
1 hour ago, jeremytwo said:

Ah, the classic ad hominem. Clearly they never taught critical thinking at Berkeley. 

 

Here's NASA:

 

https://www.thenewamerican.com/tech/environment/item/30214-nasa-sees-climate-cooling-trend-thanks-to-low-sun-activity

 

https://moneymaven.io/mishtalk/economics/amidst-global-warming-hysteria-nasa-expects-global-cooling-SJDpCv3V4EqKSOY11A378Q/

 

Hopefully people see through that idiotic woman's "Green New Deal" with her trains to Hawaii.

Ell Oh Fucking Ell.

 

First of all, saying someone isn't who he pretends to be - and offering proof - is hardly ad hominem. And the suggestion that I lack critical thinking skills - coming from you - is so irony that I won't have to press my shirts for the next year. More about that below.

 

Secondly, spewing cherry-picked misrepresentation of reality by extreme RW groups such as the John Birch Society is an excellent way to prove your own complete lack of critical thinking skills.

 

Thirdly, in another stupendous demonstration of your total absence of independent thought, you refer to Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (though not by name) as "that idiotic woman", although she graduated cum laude from Boston University College with a double-major, and parrot the ridiculous claim that she suggested "trains to Hawaii".

 

Get your nose out of your computer monitor and your head out from your ass, please.

4

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Poor old Wikiwarrior. Here's a question. Have you ever dived a coral reef* and seen coral bleaching first hand? Are there any reefs near that Berlin flat of yours, let alone trees?

 

*Marine Science Expedition to the Red Sea 1998

0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
1 hour ago, jeremytwo said:

Ah, the classic ad hominem. Clearly they never taught critical thinking at Berkeley. 

 

Here's NASA:

 

https://www.thenewamerican.com/tech/environment/item/30214-nasa-sees-climate-cooling-trend-thanks-to-low-sun-activity

 

https://moneymaven.io/mishtalk/economics/amidst-global-warming-hysteria-nasa-expects-global-cooling-SJDpCv3V4EqKSOY11A378Q/

 

Hopefully people see through that idiotic woman's "Green New Deal" with her trains to Hawaii.

 

I'll be honest here, I don't normally do this, but I was curious as to what fraufruit was responding to...I clicked on that first link. Mate, that shit is horrendous...I assumed at first that it was satire, but it seems it's actually purported as real journalism. It's just straight up lying. Please don't think that is what NASA is really saying. Here is an actual comment from NASA on the SABER results. It's not even pseudoscience. It appears to be deliberate misrepresentation. I daren't even click on the second link.

 

5

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Well that's if you trust NASA. Do any of you know much about the historical origins of NASA? Check out a character Jack Parsons the godfather of rocketry. Fascinating guy.

0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
7 minutes ago, jeremytwo said:

Well that's if you trust NASA. Do any of you know much about the historical origins of NASA? Check out a character Jack Parsons the godfather of rocketry. Fascinating guy.

What are you suggesting? That because some long-dead scientist (died long before Nasa became what Nasa is today) was an off-kilter occultist, and because of that, Nasa is involved in a conspiracy to falsify climate-change data? 

3

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
10 minutes ago, alderhill said:

What are you suggesting? That because some long-dead scientist (died long before Nasa became what Nasa is today) was an off-kilter occultist, and because of that, Nasa is involved in a conspiracy to falsify climate-change data? 

 

Yes.  I would guess he is. 

3

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
2 hours ago, fraufruit said:

 

How dare you post something direct from a source that hasn't been cherry-picked and then right-wing-washed through at least seven intermediate conspiracy websites and then presented by a shadily-paid spokesperson who claims he/she is an expert in a field unrelated to their training! 

 

What are you? Some kind of  facts-ist? 

 

 

 

 

5

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

 

7 minutes ago, balticus said:

The climate system is a coupled non-linear chaotic system, and therefore the long-term prediction of future climate states is not possible

So are the effects of smoking. So light up, dumbass.

4

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!


Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.


Sign In Now