I need some female company

[Kat 59]

 

Realistically speaking though, you would probably have to settle for something more in the direction of the latter. Grinner didn't say he was looking for a supermodel either.

No, I wouldn't. I'm not a super-model, but I'm neither fat nor ugly. What I'm saying is that women will be more willing overlook some deficiencies in the looks department if the guy is offering love. I don't see what Grinner is offering at all.

[sharpe 7]

most women would not accept if u offer them love, they would only care for their love not yours. this is the reason men have to use some tactics instead of rushing into rejection.

[Lavender Rain 7,859]

Kat, I wonder if his fuck buddy could be as big as the person in the second pic.

 

I don't see what he's offering either and to be honest, I don't think he has anything other than his "weiner" to offer. How incredibly sad.

[Ulysses 2]

It doesn't require a Phd in nuclear physics to figure out what Grinner has to offer. He wants to shag and there might be someone else out there who's also not the greatest in the looks department who also wants to shag. Why must you be good-looking before you can say you want a "fuck buddy"? Why must you bullshit a woman to get what you want? He doesn't want a relationship and there're a lot of women who don't want one either, but they'd love to have a good solid session between the sheets.

[gemini 2,074]

Could Ulyssess stop confusing the opinions of LR and MB with feminism. I strongly consider myself a feminist and don't agree with much of what both of them are saying. I may not find Grinners way of announcing his desire for a F-buddy very classy nor a particularly successful strategy...but it ain't misogynistic

 

 

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[Ulysses 2]

 

Kat, I wonder if his fuck buddy could be as big as the person in the second pic.

 

I don't see what he's offering either and to be honest, I don't think he has anything other than his "weiner" to offer. How incredibly sad.

You sound just like the blokes at school. Now that's sad. Women like you get all pissed off because the bloke doesn't make you breakfast. If only you'd just wake up, you may just smell the coffee.

[Kat 59]

sure, gemini is right. To each his own, of course, but the fact remains that the surest way into a woman's bed is through her heart (or palette - as the Don knows). Barring either of those, it would sure help to look like number one.

[Allershausen 6,414]

 

Well done, the first, and hardest step, is admitting that you have a problem.

Oh it's a problem, a problem with no solution in sight! Now if only I could cook really well! :)

[Ruthie 216]

Maybe I´m too hardened by my years in Germany. I didn´t find anything Grinner said offensive. He was a lot ruder to himself than to women. I can´t speak for women in general, but I don´t need a man with a six-pack stomach, and I´d appreciate being with someone who doesn´t look at me in horror if I eat chocolate. I think it is honest of Grinner to state what he is looking for -- though it´s not something I´d go for.

 

Grinner, work on your self-confidence. You can describe yourself as a fat bastard, but dammit, try to come across as a fat bastard worth f***ing!

[Lavender Rain 7,859]

 

Could Ulyssess stop confusing the opinions of LR and MB with feminism.

Thanks for your input, I found it interesting and insightful. I never said his post was misogynistic. I said, for me, it denigrates women by objectifying women and the whole presentation lacked class and finesse. It sounded like he's an immature, teenage, farmboy just let out into the real world for the first time and discovered women exist. Then he discovers he can screw them and don't know what else to do. Not like a mature 42 year old man.

 

As you know, it's not what you say, it's how you say. It's no wonder Grinner says he has a long history of problems with emptiness in his life. It's all about the approach and attitude. I hope Grinner does find the fuck buddy, beer guzzling, and pizza eating women that he's searching for as everyone deserves to feel needed. I believe there is someone for everyone.

[Lavender Rain 7,859]

 

Now that's sad. Women like you get all pissed off because the bloke doesn't make you breakfast.

Whatever :P

[gemini 2,074]

 

I said, for me, it denigrates women by objectifying women and the whole presentation lacked class and finesse

Well LR, that is where we will have to disagree. I don't think requesting a F-buddy objectifies nor denigrates women. When I was in med school, I had neither the time nor emotional energy for a relationship...but I wasn't dead either. Good thing feminism allowed me to have situations based on my terms, and I didn't have to choose between a relationship or solitude.

 

The rest of what you wrote...I agree with! Certainly less women than more will be wowed or wooed by this approach.

[Timmeh 828]

 

it denigrates women by objectifying women

I fail to see how his post denigrates women or objectifies them, care to explain?

[Ulysses 2]

 

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Well LR, that is where we will have to disagree. I don't think requesting a F-buddy objectifies nor denigrates women. When I was in med school, I had neither the time nor emotional energy for a relationship.

 

The rest of what you wrote...I agree with! Certainly less women than more will be wowed or wooed by this approach.

And then complain that men are all liars. You can't have your cake and eat it.

[gemini 2,074]

HUH...what exactly is your point. Exactly when did I say anything about men being liars?

[Guest]

 

Could Ulyssess stop confusing the opinions of LR and MB with feminism. I strongly consider myself a feminist and don't agree with much of what both of them are saying. I may not find Grinners way of announcing his desire for a F-buddy very classy nor a particularly successful strategy...but it ain't misogynistic

Women on this site and in life sexualize men all the time, give me a break...it does not make us men haters.

 

So the guy wants a lady friend for sex and to eat pizza and beer...ah...o.k...free world.

 

I totally disagree their are not women looking for a similar situation.. Not everyone wants commitment and roses and champagne.

I don't believe I ever called Grinner a misogynist anywhere, nor did I claim to be a feminist. When I complained about certain comments which I have in general already read on this forum, I was suddenly accused of being a feminist bitch by Ulysses. This reaction is typical. I wouldn't want to be put into the bracket feminist either. I wouldn't want to be put into any bracket whatsoever.

 

I agree with you that many women sexualise men too. Lavenderrain wrote that she feels that Grinner turned women into objects by the phrasing of his post. I guess that's the thing which got to me too. I am sick of women being turned into sex objects. I disagree just as much with women turning men into mere sex objects, but I am probably just square. I think that sexuality shouldn't be an excuse for turning people into mere objects. I think that's why many men in many countries do not even see it as a crime when they rape women or stone them. They aren't humans, they are objects or possessions. Emancipated women are starting to behave equally discriminatory towards men. This is just as bad. Human dignity is the key here, I think we humans are losing it. You can have sex and enjoy life, but why speak about the opposite sex, whether male or female, as if they are nothing but pieces of meat?

[Kat 59]

 

And then complain that men are all liars. You can't have your cake and eat it.

Ulysses sounds as if he's rationalizing some bitterly made decision to be a prick lie to all women. There are men out there who are willing and capable of giving love and committment, and a few more who are great cooks or are at least fabulously sexy. If you have to insist on being shallow, you'll just have to accept that you're outclassed by far by those described above.

[Guest]

I always wanted a boyfriend who was both a cook and a masseuse. My ex's best friend was one. He always made sure that I never got to meet him. Cooking is damn sexy. Grinner, are you listening?

[gemini 2,074]

MB - those comments were directed at Ulysses and not you. They were his confusing of feminism...I did not mean to imply that you or LR are or are not feminists.

 

However I personally don't agree with you or LR regarding the whole objectifying or denigrating women issue...as related to what Grinner posted.

 

To me that would be...I want to F**K some dumb, fat bitch or I just looking for some P***y.

 

To be direct in what you want is fine, In fact I find it less deceitful than the games that many people play. However, again I find that putting it so bluntly will probably find him few PM's in his box, but that is his perogative.

[Ulysses 2]

@Kat

 

I'm rationalising being honest. Please brush up on your reading skills.

 

 

HUH...what exactly is your point. Exactly when did I say anything about men being liars?

You didn't say anything of the sort. I just allowed myself to develop your statement to its consequences. Women like to be wooed, yes, they don't like to fall in love and then find out he was just in it for the sex. Why not be honest from the word go?

 

 

I agree with you that many women sexualise men too. Lavenderrain wrote that she feels that Grinner turned women into objects by the phrasing of his post. I guess that's the thing which got to me too. I am sick of women being turned into sex objects. I disagree just as much with women turning men into mere sex objects, but I am probably just square. I think that sexuality shouldn't be an excuse for turning people into mere objects. I think that's why many men in many countries do not even see it as a crime when they rape women or stone them. They aren't humans, they are objects or possessions. Emancipated women are starting to behave equally discriminatory towards men. This is just as bad. Human dignity is the key here, I think we humans are losing it. You can have sex and enjoy life, but why speak about the opposite sex, whether male or female, as if they are nothing but pieces of meat?

I don't know how you get from two consenting adults just wanting to shag to raping and stoning. You really need to get off that train because it's clouding your reason. Why is it wrong to have sex for the fun of it? Why must you be in a loving relationship first?

 

@MB

 

I never called you a feminist bitch. Please reread that post. And you sure as hell used the word "misogynist".