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On 3/2/2007, 1:31:03, Freiheit said:

Sometimes I wish I had studied psychiatry. There is obviously a common theme among those who need to believe in outlandish and impossibly complex theories to explain otherwise straightforward events. The thing that really astounds me is that these people do not appear to have learning disabilities nor do they exhibit other signs of retardation, and yet they would rather believe that dozens or hundreds of coincidences all occured simultaneously rather than accept far simpler explanations.

 

I bet they get that same feeling I do when I buy a lottery ticket when there's a huge jackpot: I just know deep down that I'm going to win, despite the fact that I'm more likely to be run over truck in my living room while waiting for the number drawing.

 

Any professional (or semi-pro or amatuer) psychologists or psychiatrists out there with ideas?

 

I agree with you on things which are scientifically proven such as flat earth and hollow earth but what specifically are you refering to? Are aliens conspiracy theory? 911 being an inside job or are you talking about insane things like aliens living under the Denver airport?

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On 4/14/2018, 6:50:49, cybil said:

I'm also curious as to why some people are so quick to latch onto to such ideas, even when there is little evidence,

 

A distrust of politicians maybe ? Just because you read an 'official' version of an event doesn't mean it's true. Iraqi weapons of mass destruction anyone ?? If you google false flags there are lists throughout history of these. Why should today be any different ?

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Take any conspiracy theory for granted and calculate the number of people who should lie to make official version credible.

 

US army has Snowden, wikileaks and a couple of other whistleblowers. If you believe in conspiracy theories you believe in some High Power which all those thousands of people are afraid of. You believe that climate change is fake, you believe that among thousands of scientists there is not a single one who openly tells the "truth", and that among many journalists there is not a single one who would interview such scientist.

 

Basically, that is some kind of religion based on Jewish conspiracy: that there are some people who have so much power that nobody would dare to tell the truth, that we in reality live in some kind of North Korea.

 

Is that so?

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On 4/14/2018, 6:18:18, coyote3000 said:

 Thoughts? 

 

A few years ago, a German mate, was on a conspiracy campaign.  He truly felt the German government did exist.  Existed, yes, but was not an actual government.  He had a mountain of documents and email links, which I grudgingly scanned, while looking for my next beer.  According to 'him', the US and the UK allowed the Germans to create a government subsequent to WW2, but a pseudo or quasi government that was never given full autonomy by the former two governments.  In essence, German (or West Germany) still belongs to the US and the UK.  It was a mess.  I ate me pizza, finished  a few beers and went home with a scrambled brain, which I placed back into normal mode rather quickly.

I've met numerous people over the years who will follow any new idea. Aliens, Illuminati, Flattards (love that word), etc., etc.  Until I am proven otherwise, I feel it mostly comes down to either boredom, gullibility, stupidity, make themselves feel superior or all of the above.

In the morning when I am trying to wake by drinking a barrel of espresso, I will often watch Youtube videos.  Of late I've been watching Jordan Peterson and the Flattards.  One of these Flattards made a video in which he claimed Noah had Dinosaurs in his Ark.  This boat seems to get bigger all the bloody time. 

Stephen Hawkins did a video a few years ago with the use of a boat, helicopter and a laser to prove the curvature of the Earth.  Stephen bloody Hawkins.  Bubba from Hungary did the same thing to prove Hawkins wrong.  Actually called Hawkins a liar.  Was für ein depp!

One does not need be a scientist do understand 1+1=2.  We know vaccines work, because due to them, we live longer.  Do they work 100% of the time?  No.  But not vaccinating a child is not the answer to that small percentage to which the vaccine did not work.  That's idiotic.  That's Vac-tard-ium!

Some people merely want to believe, but somethings also make no sense so they question it to a huge degree.

I don't personally believe in flying saucers and little green people with huge eyes.  However, as vast as the universe is, I do find it hard to believe that we earthlings are the only living creature out there.  Surely, there must be others.  We have yet to find them and they have yet to find us.  'Either we are alone in the universe or not.  Either thought is kind of scary'.  Don't know who said it, but I like it.

We watch movies or read a book about the Illuminati.  More and more people discuss the subject and it begins to take root.  People are easily influenced.

There is a Youtuber called Central Intelligence Agency.  I fully believe this guy took some bad acid once and has yet to recover.  He, wrongfully, has correlated the Nazis with the Knights Templar.  This PhD confuses the Sauwastika with the Swastika.  He just doesn't get it.  He is a homeless PhD in Switzerland with a wife and children and claims to have spent time in a Swiss prison where he was tortured daily due to questioning the banking system.  While he is a nut-job, he does have a following.

People are easily influenced.

 

Me thoughts!

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56 minutes ago, BayrischDude said:

A few years ago, a German mate, was on a conspiracy campaign.  He truly felt the German government did exist.  Existed, yes, but was not an actual government.  He had a mountain of documents and email links, which I grudgingly scanned, while looking for my next beer.  According to 'him', the US and the UK allowed the Germans to create a government subsequent to WW2, but a pseudo or quasi government that was never given full autonomy by the former two governments.  In essence, German (or West Germany) still belongs to the US and the UK.  It was a mess.  I ate me pizza, finished  a few beers and went home with a scrambled brain, which I placed back into normal mode rather quickly.

They are called Reichsbürger because they believe that Deutsches Reich still exists and was never officially dissolved. Bavarian police did a massive crack down on them after one policeman was killed by one of these guys. He got life sentence:

https://www.abendzeitung-muenchen.de/inhalt.urteil-gefallen-polizisten-erschossen-reichsbuerger-lebenslang-in-haft.c2d9b13f-dd6c-4e75-8b76-62bef79a18fe.html

 

One of the interesting ideas of RB is that German ID is called "Personalausweis" because all Germans are staff (Personal) of BRD GmbH. They see confirmation of this in Austria and Switzerland where ID is called "Personenausweis".

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No, that was not his argument.  I know of some loose RB thinkers.  He's not one.  He's a good lad, but bright is not a word I would use to describe him.  Fun to have a pint with and a few laughs...

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Ive been doing some reading about the psychology of the believers. Common themes tend to be heightened feelings of suspicion/distrust as well as a strong desire to feel special, one of a kind and/or privy to some secret knowledge. Possible root causes being feeling afraid, trying to get things back under control and correlation with problems in the home environment while growing up. 

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I found this article that explains why people search for and believe in conspiracy theories. If you get your news from any Chan site, youtube, reddit, etc., you really should read this. For the rest it is pretty interesting.

 

 

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QAnon began with “Q,” a persona claiming to be someone within the government, promising to expose how dark forces are working against Trump and his administration. The “Anon” part comes from Q’s readers, who decipher Q’s “clues” on message boards and build outlandish interpretations. Posters named “Q” have been instigating unfounded theories on social networks including 4Chan, 8Chan, and Reddit.

“[Conspiracy theories] like this fill an important psychological role for many people,” Thomas J. Wood, an assistant professor of Political Science at Ohio State University who has studied how conspiracy theories gain public support, told Yahoo Finance. “It tends to sway those who have chronic anxiety and feel disaffected by politics by providing a symbolic and intuitive story for them.”

Previous research, summarized by the New York Times, has found that people who believe in conspiracy theories “are more likely to be cynical about the world in general and politics in particular. Conspiracy theories also seem to be more compelling to those with low self-worth, especially with regard to their sense of agency in the world at large. Conspiracy theories appear to be a way of reacting to uncertainty and powerlessness.”...

 

 

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Well, I saw something about this this week on tv, and thought, what the heck? It's about humans with Rh negative blood types and blue, green or hazel eyes maybe decending from aliens, and how most people who report having been abducted by aliens have Rh negative blood. Oh. So I went to work with my blue eyes and Rh negative blood and told all my co-workers with blue, green or hazel eyes that if they have Rh negative blood (most have no clue what their blood type is) we may be related via an alien bloodline! This made weary workers smile indeed. Read on! Hahaha.

 

https://dailyoccupation.com/2017/01/01/rhesus-rh-negative-blood-alien/

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Hahaha! indeed, @cybil.  Conspiracy theories are incomprehensible, and their proponents are thick as planks, although they often proffer themselves as the smartest brain in the room.  Thanks for posting this - it's hilarious. :D

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14 hours ago, cybil said:

Well, I saw something about this this week on tv, and thought, what the heck? It's about humans with Rh negative blood types and blue, green or hazel eyes maybe decending from aliens, and how most people who report having been abducted by aliens have Rh negative blood. Oh. So I went to work with my blue eyes and Rh negative blood and told all my co-workers with blue, green or hazel eyes that if they have Rh negative blood (most have no clue what their blood type is) we may be related via an alien bloodline! This made weary workers smile indeed. Read on! Hahaha.

 

https://dailyoccupation.com/2017/01/01/rhesus-rh-negative-blood-alien/

 

It is only trivia, but one of the supporting arguments for Basque independence is the prominence of Rh negativity in Basques. 

 

Estonia has the highest percentage of blue eyed people in the world.    

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On 8.2.2019, 17:45:56, cybil said:

Well, I saw something about this this week on tv, and thought, what the heck? It's about humans with Rh negative blood types and blue, green or hazel eyes maybe decending from aliens, and how most people who report having been abducted by aliens have Rh negative blood. Oh. So I went to work with my blue eyes and Rh negative blood and told all my co-workers with blue, green or hazel eyes that if they have Rh negative blood (most have no clue what their blood type is) we may be related via an alien bloodline! This made weary workers smile indeed. Read on! Hahaha.

 

https://dailyoccupation.com/2017/01/01/rhesus-rh-negative-blood-alien/

I shared this article with my father, who then surprised me by stating he saw a UFO as a teen in rural Iowa in the 1950s as did his sidekick guy friend. Were they on that corn liquor or what?! They were not, however, abducted but my Dad also added that he is Rh negative. He laughed over that above article though. Maybe he and I are just 'alien sleepers' as is then my Mom, who has pitched in that she is also Rh negative. So, if you suddenly don't hear from me in TT for a long while, the mother ship might have beamed me (and the family) up. Mr. Cybil will be left on Earth as he is a Rh positive. 'We' don't need those to complete our 'mission.' Hahahaha. Not got enough to laugh about? Follow that link in the article that suggests Rh negative folk are fallen angels, it is just as odd. 

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11 hours ago, balticus said:

 

It is only trivia, but one of the supporting arguments for Basque independence is the prominence of Rh negativity in Basques. 

 

Estonia has the highest percentage of blue eyed people in the world.    

This made me curious about the prominence of Rh negative in various countries, and wouldn't you know, I found a chart. of course balticus is right on, I mean Spain and Iceland have the most Rh negative in the world indeed. Runners up include Egypt (OMG we all know aliens built the pyramids!) Germany (that UFO stuff built during WWII by you know whos!) and France (I am at a loss to find an alien connection here, help me out people). Hahaha. Here's the big chart: http://www.rhesusnegative.net/themission/bloodtypefrequencies/ Wait, that means here in Germany I am among 'my people/my aliens' after all? OMG, can Rh negative be a reason for instant Einbügerung? 

 

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Evening, cybil! Not sure about before the Vikings but during their time..they wandered around..maybe they went to what is now known as Estonia...

Aliens? Why not? That´s the form what the passengers have to fill in on a flight to the US!!!_Or used to , anyway!

:lol: 

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The Vikings went everywhere!  If you could get somewhere in a boat, that's where they went.  They had a heavy presence in Northern England - remember Harald Hardrada, killed at the Battle of Stamford Bridge that was won by his cousin Harold Godwinson. (A few days later Harold was killed at the Battle of Hastings, won by cousin William the Conqueror. ) Vikings not only went to the Mediterranean, they sailed down the Dnieper and founded Kiev.  Vikings also had a location location location attitude towards religion and local gods.  While they thought Odin, Thor, et al., could protect and serve them in Scandinavia, they were comfortable with Christianity in Christian countries and Judaism & Islam in the Near East, and went along with regional customs.  

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13 hours ago, balticus said:

 

It is only trivia, but one of the supporting arguments for Basque independence is the prominence of Rh negativity in Basques. 

 

 

We camped in the Basque country and I noticed the women are extremely attractive dark haired beauties. I believe Basque society is a matriarchy where the women have the upper hand. Fascinating region. No wonder they value independence. 

 

2 hours ago, cybil said:

I shared this article with my father, who then surprised me by stating he saw a UFO as a teen in rural Iowa in the 1950s as did his sidekick guy friend. Were they on that corn liquor or what?! They were not, however, abducted but my Dad also added that he is Rh negative. He laughed over that above article though. Maybe he and I are just 'alien sleepers' as is then my Mom, who has pitched in that she is also Rh negative. So, if you suddenly don't hear from me in TT for a long while, the mother ship might have beamed me (and the family) up. Mr. Cybil will be left on Earth as he is a Rh positive. 'We' don't need those to complete our 'mission.' Hahahaha. Not got enough to laugh about? Follow that link in the article that suggests Rh negative folk are fallen angels, it is just as odd. 

 

Cyb, after WW2 the military experimented with a lot of secret technology which they stole from the Nazis under Operation Paperclip. It is believed they developed zero point energy (the Allies used to see lights in the sky over Germany which they called Foo Fighters (no not the rock band) which when asked they simply called aliens. The whole Roswell thing was a ruse to stop people asking too much as the idea of aliens is daft, but the special tech is not. Thus those who question things are labelled as nutters. 

 

People who have Rh neg are believed to have psychic abilities such as genetic memory where there are memories in the brain from generations before. Researchers discovered this in the Monarch butterfly which migrates then their offspring know the migration route even though they have never flown the route themselves: 

 

http://rhesusnegativeanddnacorrelations.blogspot.com/2016/04/i-ve-seen-lot-of-different-posts-on.html

 

 

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