Why are you unhappy today?

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1 hour ago, murphaph said:

I actually don't like how people can just keep driving here without a medical.

 

Opa is 97 and shouldn't be driving. We recently tried to get his license revoked again but no go. His GP can't do it, he would need to go to a neurologist. Guess what? He doesn't want to go and we can't make him. Himself has also talked to the police directly. I think they will just wait for him to kill somebody.

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My Dad was already showing symptoms of Parkinson's before he got diagosed.  It all came to a crisis when my mom hid the car keys after he had nearly ploughed into a concrete barrier going around a corner.  He just couldn't control his muscles properly anymore, and it wasn't the first time he'd recently scared her.  You might consider a similar intervention.  Better have him sit and fume about it for a while than the alternative you mention. 

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2 hours ago, murphaph said:

For his own peace of mind, perhaps he should subject himself to a medical and decide based in the result whether or not to surrender his licence. A similar thing happened here with our neighbour. She shot out backwards out of her driveway and careered through a wall on the other side of the street. She narrowly (by feet not yards) missed hitting my other neighbour who was walking past. She decided to voluntarily surrender her licence, when she realised it could have been a child and not a wall.

 

Same happened to a friends neighbour.  He was in his late 80's, almost caused an accident and promptly went and surrendered his license.  

 

2 hours ago, murphaph said:

I actually don't like how people can just keep driving here without a medical. In Ireland once you hit 70 your licence is valid for a maximum of 3 years and renewal applications must be accompanied by a medical certificate from a doctor. If the doctor so chooses, he can indicate that the licence should only be valid for 1 year at a time.

 

I'm glad my mum is still driving at almost 80 but I'm also glad her doctor is checking her to make sure she's fit to drive. 

 

Same in Iceland.  License expires at age 70 and can be renewed with a medical for 4, then 3, then 2 years and after the age of 80, for one year at a time.

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Entirely sensible practice. HGV drivers of any age must take regular medicals so it's not an ageist thing. I'd be ok with medicals for all of us every 10 years to renew the licence, just reducing in interval as we get older.

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31 minutes ago, murphaph said:

Entirely sensible practice. HGV drivers of any age must take regular medicals so it's not an ageist thing. I'd be ok with medicals for all of us every 10 years to renew the licence, just reducing in interval as we get older.

Yep, had to get a medical every 5 years from the age of 40 before I could renew my HGV licence.

 

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3 hours ago, fraufruit said:

Opa is 97 and shouldn't be driving.

:blink:

 

Who insures a 97 year old on the road ?

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Himself says the person isn't insured - the car is. Now if he had regular accidents, it might be different. The same like anyone else.

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On 16/12/2021, 23:29:42, mtbiking said:

Thanks for the get well wishes.

 

Is there any more news?

 

Can't get this out of my head. Awful situation. Best wishes to you all.

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1 hour ago, kiplette said:

 

Is there any more news?

 

Can't get this out of my head. Awful situation. Best wishes to you all.


thanks so much. The small one is this in the hospital under observation as she has pains, but she looks better. No need to operate so far. The mother has relatively light injuries but needs crutches to walk and it will take the usual time to recover. My FiL is completely in shock. The idea of a medical test is good. Right now he doesn’t want to drive anyway.

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Best wishes for a full and speedy recovery for all, including your FIL.  🤞  Hard times.  I suspect he will decide it’s time to stop driving, and that’ll be ok.  

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18 hours ago, fraufruit said:

Himself says the person isn't insured - the car is. Now if he had regular accidents, it might be different. The same like anyone else.

 

If older people were really having that many accidents I'm sure insurance would exclude drivers over a certain age just like they do with younger ones.  Still I don't think it's a bad idea to require medicals at certain intervals.

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And then you have clusters of the same type of accident with elderly people behind the wheel.  Hamburg's Waitzstraße is in an old-money part of town with a string of doctor's offices, hearing aid stores, etc etc.   Translated from this article:

 

The shopping street with many doctors' offices is now famous throughout Germany for its many shop window accidents: Nowhere else in Germany do so many, mostly elderly people, accidentally drive their vehicles into the stores. This has happened more than 20 times so far. Heavy bollards, which were installed last November, are actually supposed to prevent such accidents.

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Positive mode on.

 

It s good that they are not doing it on purpose though. :ph34r: 

 

Positive mode off.

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Most people know how old they are, and when they shall reach 70, 80 etc. I plan to fix my life so I can stop driving at 75.

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10 hours ago, silty1 said:

Hamburg's Waitzstraße is in an old-money part of town with a string of doctor's offices, hearing aid stores, etc etc.

I know that road - back in my DESY days (at least 35 years ago) there used to be restaurants there that the team visited.

I try to avoid driving down that road!

 

 

10 hours ago, Fietsrad said:

Most people know how old they are, and when they shall reach 70, 80 etc. I plan to fix my life so I can stop driving at 75.

I'm first working out when I should stop flying.  At least we have a medical every 2 years (my Rechtsanwalt pal says one never lies so much as when visiting the Fliegerarzt).

Think I'm good for a few years yet.  Hans-Werner Grosse flew until he was pretty old (in later years with his wife as co-pilot).

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28 minutes ago, pappnase said:

In September my wife was given a terminal cancer diagnosis, but for the last few weeks she has been at home with us all and we were looking forward to a Christmas of sorts together.

This morning she was admitted to hospital again, and now I have to tell my kids that she won't be home for Christmas this year and she may not be home again.

I don't know how to do that.

  

When I was in a similar situation I turned to the municipal psychological service for advice. They suggested to have someone (like a Kindergarten teacher) present when telling them who they would see on a daily basis as this might give them a sense of being supported in their daily routine. I was lucky at the time to find psychotherapists specialising in children without much delay. As this will currently probably difficult  you may want to look for one now already.

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