For those who hate German supermarkets

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I don't understand why purchasing quality food at reasonable prices is mutually exclusive?

 

I know that the mere thought of "consumer convenience" is something which sends shivers down the spine of TT's socialist collective, however this gripe goes beyond that. Italy is a country which shits all over most of Europe when it comes to food from its production to its preparation; let's not even mention gastronomic flyweights like Germany, it just wouldn't be fair. However merchandise there has always been superior. It was better twenty years ago when the situation was similar to Germany in the sense that there were more small supermarkets and open-air market/local butcher shopping was the norm, and it's still better now that there are loads of "hypermarkets" and the smaller stores have slowly but surely disappeared.

 

The inferiority of the food purchasing process, if one can call it that, is a uniquely German problem, end of story.

 

 

I reckon spending a bit of time getting better food is probably more worthy.

The problem is they're fucking clueless. Munich is filthy rich and when I see the money that people spend in restaurants or at Spina, to get no-name Italian products, I realize that the problem isn't this endless quest to provide low prices to consumers.

Build a decent supermarket like a Sainsbury's (UK), Esselunga (Italy), Delhaize (Belgium) or Carrefour (France) - and they will come.

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Out of curiosity which would people say was the best of the following supermarkets:

 

Aldi

Lidl

Mini Mal

Rewe

 

The supermarket situation here in Germany is a little frustrating. With respect to the companies, the likes of Aldi and Lidl have always been budget food shops in the U.K. Whilst they are fine for buying cheap junk food (crisps and sweets for example) you definitely wouldn't wont to do all your shopping in them as it appears you have to in Germany.

 

Personally I'm not so bothered by things like having to wait at checkouts for a while, it's the apparent lack of decent food to live on that I find worst about supermarkets here.

 

Perhaps it's too much to ask for massive superstores like Tesco and it's competitors, but when you struggle to find simple items like a bag of wholemeal pasta and a tin of baked beans you begin to worry :(

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Minimal is Rewe and the other two are discounters so depending on how you define "best" Rewe is probably the answer. Except keep in mind many of the same products are available at the discounters as well but sold under different brand names so the quality discrepancy (at least with non-perishables) isn't really correct.

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Of COURSE the Aldo brothers are good business men and yes Aldi is profitable. Whoever denied that?

It's not that they can't "afford" to take Visa and MasterCard, they decline to do so becasue

 

A) The demand is not really there.

B) It would dent their profits.

 

Incidently, a sign at one bedroom furniture and bedding retailer I was in the other da has a sign up that they don't take credit cards as it costs them up to 5% of the sales sum.

 

Regarding the price / competitive issue, that came not from the business pages of the UK Indepenent, not the German Supermarket Association on r whatever.

 

I might ask some people to go in a supermarket in the UK so we can make some price comparisons...

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I can never understand why it is that in a place that has bakeries on every corner that just buying pitta bread is such a difficult thing to do ?

 

My fave meal of a pitta bread stuffed with leaf salad, hummous, chicken pieces and some garlic dip becomes a major problem to assemble instead of 2 mins in Tesco :(

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I don't know if comparisons with the UK are a good idea because of the exchange rate. Another Euro country would be a better idea, IMHO.

Why don't we pick ten to twenty basic items to make a comparison?

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Out of curiosity which would people say was the best of the following supermarkets:

 

Aldi

Lidl

Mini Mal

Rewe

Definitely Minimal, they even sell Heinz baked beans! :)

I'm beginning to sound like a salesmen for Minimal! :D

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but when you struggle to find simple items like a bag of wholemeal pasta and a tin of baked beans you begin to worry

Errrrrm Germans don't eat baked beans like English speakers do, they aren't a "simple food" in that sense.

You can get though 2 varieties in Tengelmann and one in PennyMarkt I know.

 

I think my Plus sells wholemeal pasta (I don't eat it) but any Tengelmann or REWE will have it.

 

So, within a few minutes walk of my house and my work that's EIGHT retail outlets where I can get those products. Hardly a "struggle" is it?

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@MonksTown,

 

I've already done that and to be honest the prices in my stupid opinion are similiar on Purcharse parity. i.e. 1 euro to £ 1. My life is a bit chaotic to remember what a weekly household shop is in either the UK or Germany but I can imagine if it's £100 Euros for a family of 3 then it's aprox. £100 in the UK.

 

GMTV did a shop comparison (a few months back) and choice calais vs London (typical media SE focused) but it was so not a like for like...and of course Calais came out cheaper (and the dumm arse Viewers didn't get it that there is an exchange rate and wages issues). So the only real comparison is on average wage vs average supermarket costs... Must stop my economcis is coming out again!!!

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I was up at Real the other day, in the Euro Industry Park, and its starting too look good up there.. they are doing a lot of renovations at the moment, but I think when its done its going to be pretty sweet..

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The exchange rate doesn't move huely, I think we should include the UK.

But we could take Ireland perhaps...

 

My suggestions for the basket:

 

1 litre 3% UHT milk

500g basic butter

450g tin tomatoes

kilo price apples

klio price tomatoes, on vine

1 kg bag white sugar

500g spagetti

1 litre sunflower oil

1 litre fresh orange juice

6 eggs, medium size, free range.

 

@ Stanford, its my subjective opinion but you can EASILY pay in the UK in £ what you would pay in Germany in €. As for the incomes issue: My rule of thumb has always been that German salaries seem higher gross, are smaller net but the buying power is bigger of what you have in your hand at the end of the month.

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It was bloody chaos the other Saturday, I made the mistake of going to Staples for some paper, like shopping on a building site. I hope you're right and it's good when it's finished, 'cos it sure is a mess at the moment.

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@MonksTown,

 

But as I have said if you the basket comes out £35 UK and £25 Germany does it mean Germany is cheaper not necessary if the wages in the UK is £150 and in Germany £100. (23% and 25% of your weekly wage respectively)...so straight price comparison will always make the high wage or high exchange rate country seem expensive.

 

Similiar to why you poor Euro earners think the UK is expensive..which it is not...

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Anyone else find it funny that all the blokes are going on about the price of food at supermarkets whilst the girls are organising a Friday night piss-up?

(Except Bluedave who is doing both)

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Ireland is one of the most expensive countries in the Euro zone. Especially for grocery shopping!

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Stanford, I'm not convinced pay is higher in the UK than it is in Germany.

The only "real" way to do it of course would be to work out how long the average worker has to work to be able to buy a standarised basket of goods.

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@MonksTown,

 

I think there is some truth in the 1 to 1 thing but I would still say people earn more in the UK...because of lower taxes - and there are huge regional difference i.e.SE - high wage and high costs.

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Anyone else find it funny that all the blokes are going on about the price of food at supermarkets whilst the girls are organising a Friday night piss-up?

True Jeeves, but I've got my weekend sorted already innit!

 

Thursday: Anarcho punk night with CHEAP beer

Friday: Electroclash Party

Saturday: Shagging

Sunday: Trendy housey housey thingybob

 

Just got to find time to get down to my local Plus with its friendly staff to stock up on fruit juices and mineral water and the like.

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