For those who hate German supermarkets

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We have 2 or 3 new supermarkets opened up near me in the last year. The main one looks nice on the outside, obviously cost a few quid to build etc, but god are they incompetent.

 

There are 3 checkouts. Never seen more than 2 in operation. Quite often, like on a Monday morning, there are NONE open - I shit you not. The staff are wandering around at the back of the shop doing bugger all.

 

Then once the queue gets to 3 or 4, some fat old bavarian fishwife comes bustling up, grumbling about no staff being around and opens a checkout. Obviously no apology 'cos it's not her fault.

 

Trust me this is NOT an isolated incident. I try to avoid going to the supermarket at all costs, but sometimes I need milk and there is a 50/50 chance that this kind of hopelessness will be occuring at the checkout.

 

 

Germans like to shop around and will go to several places to get their weekly shopping.

I think this is one of those chicken and egg situations. Germans only "like" shopping around 'cos they have learnt that they have no choice unless they want rotting out of date food, and therefore accept it as the norm (because over here it is the norm).

 

Some people like shopping for food. They also have the time and enthusiasm for pissing around looking for fresh ingredients. However...some of us don't and we are buggered.

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I really don't understand the inability of supermarkets here to have edible tomatoes everyday. Why is this so difficult?

I'm gonna have a little guess - tomatoes in supermarkets here are, yes, often squished and a bit rotten. They are also RED. In Blighty, they are very often orange not red. Anyone remember those "flavour top" tomatoes at Tesco? Apparently, they are specially grown for flavour. Eh? As oppose to fucking what? Surely they are ONLY grown for flavour, no?

As it happens, no is the answer. Varieties are grown for robustness so they can travel well, and are picked when they are not ripe, so they can travel well. Tasteless shite. Fresh tomato sauce in England needs to have tomato puree whacked into it to actually make it taste like tomato, and have some colour.

You should go to markets for them really in Germany, but I know this is time consuming. Even at the supermarkets though, the quality of toms is pretty fine I reckon, just have to get there early before they're all squished. When you get them home, wash them, and chuck that god awful plastic packaging away, and they last much longer.

 

 

The whole idea of a supermarket is for the retailer to maximise his profit.

Something that German supermarkets are frankly shite at. Product placement is well important, and should not be done on a "this palette of crap will fit in that gap there" basis.

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I wish everything would be under one roof too! Germans are just so leisurely and no-one ever seems to be in a rush...well some ppl have things to do!!!

 

WalMart here is okay but not great.

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When all said and done J.E. you are the customer and if you do not like the supermarket and the service you get the why the fuck do you still shop there? All lidls are delivered 2 a day with fresh veg and meat.Aldis is only once a day and all veg is packed.Lidl have veg where you can pick and bag your own.

So i agree with G. nobody forces you to buy there so live with it or change the fucking shop you shop at

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I wish everything would be under one roof too!

To be fair, I go to a farmers market on saturdees for meat and veg, and then Tenglemann next door for non-fresh stuff. The distance I walk is probably about the same as wandering around a massive tescos. I don't care too much about all under one roof really, I just wish that somebody here sold delicious snack products of the Ginsters variety.

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Even at the supermarkets though, the quality of toms is pretty fine I reckon, just have to get there early before they're all squished. When you get them home, wash them, and chuck that god awful plastic packaging away, and they last much longer.

Or go near closing time when they are putting fresh ones out hehe :P

I always take the new tomates from the crates that are left lying around the fruit&veg section...

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What are you lot bitching about??? Get our meat directly from a butchers on the farmyard,Veg is bought at the local farmers market you can haggle about the prices.Hardly ever use supermarkets,you could do all this back in blighty.You just have to look around and speak the language.

What is the point of moving to another country and wanting it all to be like back in blighty.

Only thing wrong with supermarkets here is they have no good deals like BOGOFF's

This is of course the best option, my local butchers is excellent, as is the green grocers, but that's not the point. I don't want Germany to become Britain either, but when something is noticbly better in another country I think we're allowed to comment on it. Surely it cannot be hard for the buyers in the supermarkets to buy decent fruit and veg. They must have to throw most of what they buy away, because I see people looking at the stuff on offer and just not buying it! A smile costs nothing either!

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What are you lot bitching about??? Get our meat directly from a butchers on the farmyard,Veg is bought at the local farmers market you can haggle about the prices.Hardly ever use supermarkets,you could do all this back in blighty.You just have to look around and speak the language.

What is the point of moving to another country and wanting it all to be like back in blighty.

Only thing wrong with supermarkets here is they have no good deals like BOGOFF's

What are we bitching about???

 

Personally I find life too short to fuck about going to the farmyard for a piece of meat, and haggling at the bloody farmers market for a cauliflower. The less time I spend involved in the whole shopping experience the better.

 

It is not a case of wanting everything to be like back in blighty. I like some of the german food - in fact we had a german shop back in the UK we used to use.

 

All I want is a few simple things from the supermarkets that I do not get here:

 

1. MORE CHOICE

 

2. BETTER SERVICE

 

3. BETTER QUALITY PRODUCTS

 

I don't think the above list makes me a whingeing ex-pat. They are things you get in French, Spanish, US and Australian supermarkets in my experience.

 

If they added these things to the supermarkets it does not preclude people piddling around at the farmers market if they fancy.

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I just wish that somebody here sold delicious snack products of the Ginsters variety.

Well the bakeries up here make sausage roll type things but that's closest I've seen. I love sausage rolls and some of are not too bad...Wurstbrötchen they call 'em :lol:

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You just have to look around and speak the language

Lies. I was yabbering at the missus about something at the market recently, and the serving wench started talking to me in English. German should only be spoken to your dog, and your mother in law.

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And for those that think ALDI is a wonderful company for driving down prices, and selling at low margins, and not being able to afford to take credit cards and all that bollox take a quick look at the TOP 10 richest people in Europe in 2006:

 

Karl & Theo Albrecht Germany Supermarkets £18,400,000,000

Ingvar Kamprad Sweden Retail (Ikea) £16,000,000,000

Lakshmi Mittal UK Steel £14,900,000,000

Bernard Arnault France Luxury goods £12,300,000,000

Johanna Quandt Germany Cars (BMW) £11,900,000,000

Roman Abramovich UK Oil, Investments £10,800,000,000

Liliane Bettencourt France Cosmetics £9,100,000,000

Amancio Ortega Spain Fashion £8,500,000,000

The Herz family Germany Coffee £7,400,000,000

The Brenninkmeyer family Holland Retail £7,100,000,000

 

Now I am a right wing capitalist, so good luck to Karl & Theo for duping the moron German public into thinking they are getting a great deal. But you do not amass £18Billion by working on zero profit margins.

 

They have piled 'em high, sold 'em cheap and managed to brainwash a population into thinking they are getting a fabulous deal. Along the way they have murdered the competition, and effectively made a barrier to entry for competition. Bloody fantastic marketing job, but it has buggered up my weekly shopping choices.

 

So when you all trundle down to ALDI to save those pennies just remember these boys are working on HIGHER PROFIT MARGINS than the wicked evil Safeways and Tescos etc.

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An Aldi has just opened up in Allershausen, so wthin spitting distance of each other we now have Penny Markt, Edeka and Aldi, which should mean plenty of competition, so I'm hoping for a significant rise in Quality and service, I will however not be holding my breath! :)

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i hate the fact that there is never enough space to push your trolley properly without pumping into something...

however, i like the markets where i get me veggie stuff.

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I'm hoping for a significant rise in Quality and service

That's based on a logical assumption that the supermarkets will try to differentiate themselves based upon quality and service. Of course you know that they won't. They'll all be oblivious to one another.

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The whole idea of a supermarket is for the retailer to maximise his profit. Something that German supermarkets are frankly shite at.

Methinks the above post PROVES how they are rather good at making profits.

 

There is a classic marketing trick going on at ALDI and the others. An example:

 

If you walk into a solicitors office and you see a Picasso hanging on the wall and marble floors you immediately draw breath and thing "Fuck me, this is gonna cost €1,000 an hour"

 

So of course you are immediately making assumptions when you walk around a crappy ALDI with shoddy presentation that the poor bugggers are working on wafer-thin margins. This is not so as proven. It is a MARKETING TRICK so that you feel you are getting a bargain, and shopping in a discount store.

 

We had this discussion before when people defended the lack of supermarkets taking credit cards because the poor retailer could not afford to take them. I think we can see that ALDI most certainly could, but again it does not fit with their "image" as a discount store.

 

All those defending the crap supermarkets here are being duped and acting like sheep.

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That's based on a logical assumption that the supermarkets will try to differentiate themselves based upon quality and service. Of course you know that they won't. They'll all be oblivious to one another.

Sadly I suspect you are right, hence:

 

I will however not be holding my breath!
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An Aldi has just opened up in Allershausen, so wthin spitting distance of each other we now have Penny Markt, Edeka and Aldi, which should mean plenty of competition, so I'm hoping for a significant rise in Quality and service, I will however not be holding my breath!

Dream on. Edeka are the numpties I am talking about with no checkouts. Brand new store. Opposite is a brand new ALDI, and we have LIDL round the corner and other assortments of supermarkets.

 

 

When all said and done J.E. you are the customer and if you do not like the supermarket and the service you get the why the fuck do you still shop there?

Because it is Hobson's choice. If I pop over to the ALDI or LIDL or the others it is not as if I am actually getting any better choice or service is it? Same shit, different sign over the door.

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You should go to markets for them really in Germany, but I know this is time consuming. Even at the supermarkets though, the quality of toms is pretty fine I reckon, just have to get there early before they're all squished. When you get them home, wash them, and chuck that god awful plastic packaging away, and they last much longer.

this is the point. Germany is still a Hausfrau society, which means it is expected that we go directly to the specialists for all our fresh goods. Supermarkets are only really meant for non-perishable items. This is positive in that you can get excellent bread from the baker, fresh meat from the butcher and high quality produce from the market, it's negative for those of us who aren't Hausfrauen who have all the time in the world to travel to 6 different places to get our groceries.

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it's negative for those of us who aren't Hausfrauen who have all the time in the world to travel to 6 different places to get our groceries

Thats very true, its damned inconvenient - but people seem quite happy to find time to pursue ridiculous activities like going to the bloody gym. I reckon spending a bit of time getting better food is probably more worthy.

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