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Leaving Germany, do I need to deregister?

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Hey guys and gals,

 

Will be leaving Germany for good early April

 

Just wondering does anybody know if I should bother de-registering at the various "Amts"?

I dont intend to come back and will be going to the US for a couple of years and then finally

back to the UK.

 

Would have to do it in Frankfurt and dont frankly relish the thought of the burocracy of bestätigung this and

bestätigung that. I remember when I "tried" to get married here,they needed a "bestätigung" that my birth certificate was an original :wacko: So I got my local church in the UK to write a letter,I then had to get that translated and witnessed and a "bestätigung that that was also an original...anyway you get the point.I cant be bothered and jsut dont have the time...Can I just go?

 

I have already de reg the car,cant take it with me,but what about the "einwohnmelderamt" the "Finanzamt", the IHK,and another Amt which I forget the name of where I had to register my business. "Gewerberamt" I think.

 

Thanks

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Well I guess you know the answer...it's the rule that you have to, if you do it, is up to you :P

 

By the way, if everyone only registers in Germany and dont deregister, when they leave...maybe there are not even as many foreigners living here as we think? ;)

or maybe the amount of ppl who dont register is about the same as the ones who dont deregister, then it would be right again, just the names of the ppl living here are wrong :D

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i think the finanzamt i would let them know but the rest. If i was only living here and not have a business then i would just bugger off.

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Thanks Hannah,

 

If I have the time I might,but if they give me any jip I might just bugger off.

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I don't think there is any need... only take a minute anyway!

 

Reminds me of when I used to live in Frankfurt. Wanted to do my driving test but had to be registered. Once I got it I had to de-register again so as to avoid paying German tax :D

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Reminds me of when I first came to Germany, it was before Britain was in the EU. I had an Aufenthaltserlaubnis but had to have an Arbeitserlaubnis to get a job but the Arbeitsamt wouldn´t give one until I had a job, but my future employer wouldn´t give me the job until I had the Arbeitserlaubnis, we went round and round and I was introduced very early to the concept of shouting at people to get things done.

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well ok but if you think of other non EU countries, to go to Germany always was not to difficult compared to for example USA. They won't even let you stay more then 3 months if you have no visa before you go there to live there. Even if you have one after a marriage I guess you are not allowed to work for a year (or something).

Ami should know better prolly. Sorry for the OT ops

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Try PM'ing Neil373 - he recently went through all the de-registration stuff in Frankfurt to move to Switzerland, and I seem to remember it was actually quite painless & was all done in a few hours.

 

There can be some benefits to it, as depending on how long you have been here you can claim certain stuff back - I don't know how it works, but if you've been here under 5 years I believe you get some of your social payments back.

 

Good luck with the move!

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Thanks Mark,

 

Ive been here longer than 5 years and I was seff employed for the last 5 before that I was in the British Army here.

 

Being self employed puts me below the the lowest of the low,so I wont get s##t back.It aint worth my time and money to try;I am just over the moon to be going TBQH. :D

 

Wish id discovered this Britboard ages ago.Might have made life here a bit easier to understand.

and have somewhere to lett of some steam.

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As far as I am aware you just have to 'abmeld' at the Einwohnermelderamt. If you go to the one on Zeil 3 it really will not take very long. In turn they will inform the Finanzamt and everyone else interested.

 

I think when you sell and de-register your car the insurance is automatically cancelled!

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I deregistered at the Amt on Leipzigerstrasse in Bockenheim, there was no queue and it took me all of two minutes. You just have to fill in a very simple form and tell them where you're moving to.

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I think de-registering at the einwohnemeldeamt is not really necessary, i mean who really cares about them if you dont plan on coming back here. What i would worry about is the finanzamt etc if i was at some time self-employed. They might keep on taxing you every year and then when it amounts to enough try and find you...

 

 

In turn they will inform the Finanzamt and everyone else interested.

yes but that is info on a normal tax card, self employed there is more to it. De-register your firm.

 

TBQH = To be quite honest

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but Bully...how do you know exactly, how many ppl live in a country? Shouldn't someone who leaves the country and plans not to come back, deregister SOMEWHERE? I am not saying I like the way it's in Germany with the registration rule in general, but is it not somehow interesting and maybe even important, how many ppl (at least how many about) live in a country?

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I think in the UK that is all done in the census forms every 10 years or something like that!

 

Interesting - to who exactly??

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I think de-registering at the einwohnemeldeamt is not really necessary, i mean who really cares about them if you dont plan on coming back here. What i would worry about is the finanzamt etc if i was at some time self-employed. They might keep on taxing you every year and then when it amounts to enough try and find you...

The problem is, if you are registered as resident at the Einwohneramt then the FA will want to see tax returns. There are a number of other things, like it is a crime to move without re-registering here. So if you leave without de-registering, you can have a lot of problems with various authorities should you want to travel to Germany at a later date -- I know someone who was arrested at the passport control for just this reason.

 

As has been written, it only takes 2 minutes to tell them you're leaving, you can even give them a false address if you are "emigrating", but then you wouldn't get any refunds which may be due (such as tax pre-payments) and it makes sorting any unforseen issues difficult.

 

So where's the problem just to be honest with them? You can even tell them why you're going -- they won't give a shit, but you can always feel better that you've made it official :ph34r:

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Interesting - to who exactly??

hmm I dont know, just out of interest? If i hear there are 60 Million ppl living in Germany but actually its only 40 or 30? Well I dont know? I just though when I hear or read about how many ppl live in a country, I just trust it actually. But if nobody deregisters and registers :huh:

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Federal Socialist Republic of Germany - 82 million, give or take a few illegal immigrants.

 

Of course all brethren of German blood are entitled to move here if they so choose

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