When will my 49 euro ticket arrive?

[Fietsrad 412]

They have stopped talking about the 49€ ticket, it is now the Deutschlandticket, and the price is to be dynamised. Sounds good but it means the price goes up with inflation. Like when the €uro was introduced. Stuff that cost 10 DM soon cost 10 €.

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I tried to use the infamous RE1 (Magdeburg - Berlin - Frankfurt/Oder) this week.

 

On the first trip all the toilets (4) were faulty.

On the second trip the information said that the train had a Plus20 (20 minutes delay) so I went to the newspaper store to pass the time. When I got to the platform there was no train, perhaps it was not delayed after all. Got the next delayed train (Plus40). The train after that nearly caught it up.

 

On the way home I did not bother with the timetable, but I was lucky, a train arrived just as I got to the train station (Plus20).

 

In Berlin it hardly matters if the trains are late, there are so many. But if an RE train is delayed Plus40, it can never recover the time. Until the next day, when the first train is on time?

 

I quite like train travel but I am very glad to be retired so I do not have to travel.

[murphaph 9,814]

ODEG are really struggling on the RE1 since taking in over. It's strange as the RE2 used to be fine but that's DB now.

[keith2011 2,648]

59 minutes ago, Fietsrad said:

They have stopped talking about the 49€ ticket, it is now the Deutschlandticket, and the price is to be dynamised

 

The cost of a (age +65 ) public transport ticket for the Munich inner city area is €49,50 per month and it goes up every year (No toilets on any of the trains busses or trams!)! What is not to like about a Duetschland wide ticket for €49,- or do retirees get free travel on public transport in Berlin?

[Fietsrad 412]

Lots of people pay €100+ a month for a season ticket, the Deutschlandticket will "save" them cash for a while. Taxes go up instead, later😉 The railway still needs cash to pay staff, fix trains and tracks.

 

And if traveling becomes apparently cheaper and more attractive more people will want to travel.

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I think the problem with the RE1 is the Stadtbahn thru Berlin, it is used by so many trains. If a train leaves Fangschleuse five minutes late it loses its path and can delay lots of other trains.

[keith2011 2,648]

5 minutes ago, Fietsrad said:

But the railway still needs cash to pay staff, fix trains and tracks.

 

So how much more does it cost to run a train with 50 passengers than a train with 250 passengers?

[vivanco 174]

1 hour ago, keith2011 said:

 

So how much more does it cost to run a train with 50 passengers than a train with 250 passengers?

Just a wild guess. It will be more indirectly in terms of early service due to parts wear due to carrying those extra 14 tonnage of load(200*70 kg on average) 

[sluzup 254]

The point is to get more people off the roads.  Since lockdown, less people are using the trains and more are using their cars.  There are many benefits to getting people out of their cars and onto the trains, so yes, government may need to spend more on the trains but maybe less elsewhere.

[murphaph 9,814]

Well if it works it can spend less on roads maintenance and construction of course.

[murphaph 9,814]

2 hours ago, keith2011 said:

 

The cost of a (age +65 ) public transport ticket for the Munich inner city area is €49,50 per month and it goes up every year (No toilets on any of the trains busses or trams!)! What is not to like about a Duetschland wide ticket for €49,- or do retirees get free travel on public transport in Berlin?

No it's not free for oaps here but their ticket is valid in the whole VBB area which is all of Brandenburg and Berlin. It's very good value as it is as the VBB is the largest tariff organisation in Germany by quite a margin. The new ticket will still be better value though. I wish it wasn't subscription only. I don't travel enough to warrant a subscription but in the summer months I would. Ah well.

[Fietsrad 412]

There is talk of a subscription, that can be cancelled at any time, we know that well enough from magazines. Subscribe, then cancel ASAP😉

[keith2011 2,648]

1 hour ago, vivanco said:

Just a wild guess. It will be more indirectly in terms of early service due to parts wear due to carrying those extra 14 tonnage of load(200*70 kg on average) 

 

How about, on a wild guess from me, that over the normal working life of the tracks and rolling stock the additional cost of those extra passengers  would work out to almost nothing!

[Anna66 2,689]

I heard a rumour about April? Hasn't been confirmed though.

 

Here is a link about the ticket.

 

https://sites.rmv.de/de/deutschlandticket?gclid=EAIaIQobChMImMy788Kc_AIVzeh3Ch2BRQzGEAAYASAAEgKTJPD_BwE

[Fietsrad 412]

D-Ticket? A third name for something that does not exist yet😉

[Krieg 15,027]

On 1/14/2023, 1:00:28, Fietsrad said:

There is talk of a subscription, that can be cancelled at any time, we know that well enough from magazines. Subscribe, then cancel ASAP😉

 

A subscription that can be cancelled any time (like the 29 EUR ticket) is just to avoid tourists from profiting from this.   Which somehow can be fair, but at the end only creates difficulties for the locals and bureaucracy headache.    Plus more chances for something to go wrong when such things must be implemented in a rush, like the tons or people in Berlin that were charged full price in January instead of 29 EUR.

[Dembo 525]

29 minutes ago, Krieg said:

 

A subscription that can be cancelled any time (like the 29 EUR ticket) is just to avoid tourists from profiting from this.   Which somehow can be fair, but at the end only creates difficulties for the locals and bureaucracy headache.    Plus more chances for something to go wrong when such things must be implemented in a rush, like the tons or people in Berlin that were charged full price in January instead of 29 EUR.

 

I don't think there's any danger of it being done in a rush. How long did it take to sort out the €9 ticket? About 6 weeks IIRC, but we've already been waiting months for this one and it's still months away.

 

I renewed my 1 month Stuttgart Zone 1 ticket this morning - now €75.70.

[Krieg 15,027]

The 9 EUR ticket had no subscription.  Berlin's 29 EUR ticket required one and as I mentioned BVG screwed up now that it was extended in January.

[murphaph 9,814]

Is Berlin going to retain the €29 ticket when the €49 ticket goes live? Living in zone C the €29 is not useful to me but I guess most Berliners rarely actually need to leave the AB zone and the €29 ticket would be more attractive to them than paying an extra €240 a year for the D-Ticket. That's a lot of Anschlussfahrkarten to BER!

[Fietsrad 412]

The 29€ ticket is staying thru February 12 at least, Ms Giffey is using it to try to get re-elected😉

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I want to do some trips into the neighboring "Fuerstenthum", today a trip would cost 42€, day ticket. I should prefer to pay 49€, covers up to 31 trips.

 

Are there any figures on people living near the edge of their Bundesland? Must be millions.

[Fietsrad 412]

Looks like the first of May, not April 1 (that date, does it have a special significance?😉)

 

I spent more than 70€ on train travel in January, so I could "save".

 

But some people are a bit sick of traveling back and forth. I was in a small town near Berlin, saw advertisements encouraging people to get work near home and avoid hundreds of hours a year commuting.

[snowingagain 5,355]

Looks like there will be a 1 euro a day deal for juniors  Including students up to 27.