police cannot decide on car accident

[fraufruit 42,168]

I hit someone from behind at a stoplight some years ago. It was clearly my fault and I said so immediately. 

[optimista 5,885]

Breath of fresh air, FF.

I have an automatic and still do neutral and handbrake. What does it cost ? If you have some sort of malaise you could be in big trouble drifting into traffic slumped over the driving wheel when your foot slips off the brake. You only know afterwards that for the first time in your life you blacked out for some unknown reason.

[fraufruit 42,168]

I learned on an automatic 50 yrs. ago. Was never taught to do that and I never have done it. Do they teach that in driving school now in case one passes out? Interesting.

 

With our EV, the brake is automatically on when one takes their foot off of the gas pedal. That's how we stop.

 

The rearender I did in Munich was my first at fault car accident ever. I was not in the moment, I thought the car in front of me was going through the yellow but he stopped suddenly. I wasn't following so close, never do, but obviously it was too close for me to react. Big lesson learned. I haven't driven in Munich since.

[Dembo 525]

I remember being taught that if you're stopping for more than a second you should use the handbrake. However certainly in the UK nobody does that (you can tell from brake lights). And with a manual you can't help rolling back at least a tiny amount as you don't have enough legs.

 

I managed a similar rear ender as FF once in Oxford where I thought the car in front was pulling out onto the roundabout and I followed. I think I looked right at exactly the wrong moment. Completely my fault and I said so. 

[snowingagain 5,355]

8 minutes ago, Dembo said:

However certainly in the UK nobody does that (you can tell from brake lights). And with a manual you can't help rolling back at least a tiny amount as you don't have enough legs.

Are you serious?  There is no reason to roll back at all if you have proper clutch control.  Do you really not know how do this?  Seriously?  

[Fietsrad 412]

I think some people who drive in hilly towns (Bristol, Sheffield, Stuttgart usw etc) do have the habit of using the handbrake correctly, as we were taught.  And engaging gear when parking. And turning the wheels to the curb when parking.

 

I certainly do.

[snowingagain 5,355]

1 minute ago, Fietsrad said:

I think some people who drive in hilly towns (Bristol, Sheffield, Stuttgart usw etc) do have the habit of using the handbrake correctly, as we were taught.  And engaging gear when parking. And turning the wheels to the curb. I certainly do.

Well of course you do.  I mean you can just do the keeping-the-engine-engaged thing with the clutch.  I mean, I could do it for hours.  But for what purpose?  Wheels to curb and car left in gear were standard when I lived in hilly places. I also had a mini with a crap battery.  I used to park it on a hill (in hilly part of Plymouth) and get it going by pushing it down hill, started off while I was in the car.  Not to be recommended, btw.

[Dembo 525]

2 minutes ago, snowingagain said:

Are you serious?  There is no reason to roll back at all if you have proper clutch control.  Do you really not know how do this?  Seriously?  

 

"Tiny amount". You need to get from the foot brake to the accelerator and reach the biting point before the car starts to move at all. Which is why everyone is taught to use the handbrake. 

[snowingagain 5,355]

You seem to be repeating what I said about clutch control.  I was responding to this crap you said about no one in the UK using it.  

36 minutes ago, Dembo said:

However certainly in the UK nobody does that (you can tell from brake lights). And with a manual you can't help rolling back at least a tiny amount as you don't have enough legs.

 

I know how to keep the clutch going on a hill, without using the handbrake.  It will knacker your clutch though, like do you even understand the term "slipping the clutch"?

[fraufruit 42,168]

What's a clutch? 

 

JK. I know how to drive stick shift. Just hate it and choose not to.

[snowingagain 5,355]

2 minutes ago, fraufruit said:

What's a clutch? 

 

JK. I know how to drive stick shift. Just hate it and choose not to.

Funny, I find driving automatic hair raising and hate the lack of control (it seems to me)!  But of course it is just getting used to stuff.

 

Edit: OK I find "stick shift" superior.  Am a snob.

[Dembo 525]

1 minute ago, snowingagain said:

You seem to be repeating what I said about clutch control.  I was responding to this crap you said about no one in the UK using it.  

 

This is turning into one of those crazy internet arguments.

 

Nobody in the UK using what? Clutch control? Handbrake? 

[fraufruit 42,168]

3 minutes ago, snowingagain said:

OK I find "stick shift" superior.  Am a snob.

 

All the snobs I know drive automatic. Funny that I'm not one.

[Feierabend 1,145]

I have a strong urge to ram the apparent majority of the drivers with dazzling brake lights who can't be bothered to use the handbrake at lights and level crossings, especially at night. Am sadly too well brought up to not take revenge by putting headlights on full beam.

[HH_Sailor 3,624]

12 hours ago, Dembo said:

 

"Tiny amount". You need to get from the foot brake to the accelerator and reach the biting point before the car starts to move at all. Which is why everyone is taught to use the handbrake. 

 

Ah well, you see, driving schools don't teach 'heeling and toeing'.

 

You need Dr. Google for that.

 

Please don't practice this technique on a road. Find a safe empty car park, or test track...and wear sensitive shoes.

 

Good luck

 

[Fietsrad 412]

12 hours ago, Feierabend said:

I have a strong urge to ram the apparent majority of the drivers with dazzling brake lights who can't be bothered to use the handbrake at lights and level crossings, especially at night. Am sadly too well brought up to not take revenge by putting headlights on full beam.

You could close your eyes and relax for a moment, until the driver behind blows her horn to wake you up😕

[Lenny Nero 38]

21 hours ago, HH_Sailor said:

If it comes to he-said-she-said then your SF may well take a hit.

 

In this scenario (two cars collide front to rear in the same lane at a traffic light) the court will assume that the driver coming from behind is at fault. The driver would have to provide evidence to the contrary (witness, expert testimony as to the cause of the damage etc.) to shatter that assumption.

[RedMidge 6,638]

The OP did admit to " Floating back a bit"!

[fraufruit 42,168]

On 04/02/2023, 13:49:41, kstn said:

She claimed that my car has been floating back and hit her car.

 

He said -  "Of course it went a little but not more than 0.1m. And the car behind for sure must be 3-5m in any case."

 

[RedMidge 6,638]

4 minutes ago, fraufruit said:

 

He said -  "Of course it went a little but not more than 0.1m. And the car behind for sure must be 3-5m in any case."

 

True.