Posted 26 January Hi, I am currently insured with AOK. I am pregnant. I plant to give birth in Asia. I am wondering if anyone knows if health insurance pays for anything if I choose to give birth outside of Germany? 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 26 January If you have taken out additional international travel insurance through AOK you will be covered by what the contract says. If you have not got this, I doubt you are covered for anything at all while in Asia. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 26 January How does a man ( from your profile ) give birth in Asia ? 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 26 January All things possible these days. Non binary and all that stuff. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 26 January AOK and other public insurers will not cover you in Asia. As snowingagain points out, you will need to have an EXISTING internatiinal heslth insurance contract and - even then - you would need to check with them if pregnancy is included and whether just " choosing " to give birth there would be covered. I have my doubts. And yssterday's question is an jnteresting one! ( Exchse my typos) 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 26 January 3 hours ago, john g. said: AOK and other public insurers will not cover you in Asia. Except for that part of Asia which is part of the EU - Cyprus 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 26 January 5 hours ago, optimista said: All things possible these days. Non binary and all that stuff. Last year I was shocked reading in the New York Times that in 2021 for 0.1% of US births, the person who gave birth was legally a man.😭 I wonder how much the insurance industry already adapted to the fact that man and woman no longer mean what they used to.😭😭 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 26 January In England, a Gender Recognition Certificate grants the holder quite a lot of rights. But there are, justifiably, limits to what this means. Regarding the clash with women's rights, and some others, Other countries (Canada) and US states (California) have far fewer (if any) limitations. I have got slagged off here for the idea of not wanting to be naked in the shower, changing rooms and saunas here. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 26 January 22 minutes ago, Gambatte said: Last year I was shocked reading in the New York Times that in 2021 for 0.1% of US births, the person who gave birth was legally a man.😭 I wonder how much the insurance industry already adapted to the fact that man and woman no longer mean what they used to.😭😭 Well, these days, all insurance contracts in Germany are unisex tariffs ( ie same price for men and women ) but you still have to choose between Herr or Frau on the application forms. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 26 January 6 minutes ago, john g. said: Well, these days, all insurance contracts in Germany are unisex tariffs ( ie same price for men and women ) but you still have to choose between Herr or Frau on the application forms. Someone sued Deutsch Bahn for this indignity. A non-binary female. Found it upsetting having to say which when buying ticket. Got thousands. Will post the link when I find it. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 26 January 7 minutes ago, snowingagain said: Someone sued Deutsch Bahn for this indignity. A non-binary female. Found it upsetting having to say which when buying ticket. Got thousands. Will post the link when I find it. https://www.rbb24.de/panorama/beitrag/2022/06/deutsche-bahn-diskriminierung-nicht-binaere-trans-person-divers.html ( quickly found with the help of a magnifying glass😂).. By the way, the chief eye surgeon at Barmbek hospital where I have been a few times recentky, calls me Master Gunn! I find it hilarious! I'm 70!! Everyone feels like a victim these days😡 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 26 January 29 minutes ago, john g. said: Well, these days, all insurance contracts in Germany are unisex tariffs What's the logic? If life insurances are not allowed to discriminate on gender, how can they be allowed to discriminate on age?🤯🤔 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 26 January 35 minutes ago, Gambatte said: What's the logic? If life insurances are not allowed to discriminate on gender, how can they be allowed to discriminate on age?🤯🤔 Insurance business are probably the way to go on who is male or female. I mean, they are ruthless. The UK did stop a woman who identified as male, who gave birth to a child, being recorded as the father. So there is some sanity still around. It was done for solid, legal reasons. Mother means something in law in the UK. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 26 January @snowingagain So this person is the biological mother, legally the mother, and legally a man😭🤯🥺😬 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 26 January 1 minute ago, Gambatte said: M@snowingagain So this person is the biological mother, legally the mother, and legally a man😭🤯🥺😬 No. They are (legally) not the mother. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 26 January 3 minutes ago, snowingagain said: No. They are (legally) not the mother. Oh? She gave birth. So she's the biological mother. You wrote she's not the legal father. I can only think she gave the child for adoption. Otherwise how can she NOT be the legal mother? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 26 January I'm sure we all agree anybody can be whoever they want to be. I have no problems with that, but some people will always attempt to manipulate the system. That's why there needs to be safeguards. For everyone, regardless of gender. Transgender rapist Isla Bryson moved to men's prison 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 26 January 2 hours ago, Gambatte said: Oh? She gave birth. So she's the biological mother. You wrote she's not the legal father. I can only think she gave the child for adoption. Otherwise how can she NOT be the legal mother? There was a case in the UK when a transman gave birth. Their wish was to be have their name on their child's birth cetificate as the father. Rather than mother. Was not allowed. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 26 January 3 minutes ago, snowingagain said: Of course she is the mother. And I am gettin stuff shouted at me. I am already not fealing good about stuff. I have met a lot of these non binarly people. How can he be the mother men can't be mothers. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 26 January 11 minutes ago, Chelski said: we all agree anybody can be whoever they want to be. We don't. I think it would be best for all if society accepted the boundaries set by mother nature on who a person can or cannot be. As much as I can't be black, or 2m tall, or a teenager, or pregnant, I also shouldn't be allowed to "be" a woman. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
