Posted 23 Dec 2022 4 hours ago, CountingCrows said: Conclusion: No healthy catering service in Munich. Thanks to everyone who spent their valuable time. This was for my cousin's family. I thought I could find a solution for them as they have been suffering from this problem in Munich way too long. Conclusion: nothing beats home cooking 👻. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 23 Dec 2022 1 hour ago, knotheadusc said: I would NOT recommend Hello Fresh. We used to use it, but quit due to not enjoying the meals and very poor customer service. From the get go, we had a bad time with them, when their payment system kept telling me my orders weren't going through when they really were. I ended up with four meal boxes and three fruit boxes, and they blamed ME for it. In spite of that mishap, we still subscribed for two years, before we finally had enough. Two years after we canceled the service, a "glitch" in their system somehow restarted it, and we ended up with an auto-delivered box we never ordered, plus a nastygram that the payment method didn't work (because we had canceled two years prior, and the credit card expired). It took several days of emails and phone calls before they finally deleted my account. That situation was annoying enough, but it also happened a week before we were going to move and created stress we sure didn't need. Sorry, but I can't agree at all with you. We've had nothing but a good experience with them, including their customer service. Most of the meals we have really enjoyed as well. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 23 Dec 2022 23 minutes ago, BobbyDigital said: Sorry, but I can't agree at all with you. We've had nothing but a good experience with them, including their customer service. Most of the meals we have really enjoyed as well. Ok but your good experience does not negate other party's bad experience. I am having a hard time understading why such a service even exists. The time-consuming part in cooking.. is, well, cooking. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 23 Dec 2022 53 minutes ago, CountingCrows said: The time-consuming part in cooking.. is, well, cooking. Actually, it is the shopping and prep work for me. The actual cooking is easy. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 23 Dec 2022 How is shopping time-consuming? You press order to your list, supermarket delivers them fresh in 30 mins. Carrefour for example. If you prefer, choose only organic. Prep you are doing with that hello fresh as well, that is part of cooking. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 23 Dec 2022 36 minutes ago, CountingCrows said: supermarket delivers them fresh in 30 mins Wahahaha! 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 23 Dec 2022 2 hours ago, CountingCrows said: How is shopping time-consuming? You press order to your list, supermarket delivers them fresh in 30 mins. We'll agree to differ... Cooking with friends, sharing tastes and ideas is part of my life. Shopping at the market, choosing what is fresh and looks appetizing and arranging that is my thing too. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 23 Dec 2022 3 hours ago, CountingCrows said: Ok but your good experience does not negate other party's bad experience. I am having a hard time understading why such a service even exists. The time-consuming part in cooking.. is, well, cooking. OK. But their bad experience does not negate my good experience. (what kind of comment is that?!) 2 hours ago, CountingCrows said: How is shopping time-consuming? You press order to your list, supermarket delivers them fresh in 30 mins. Carrefour for example. If you prefer, choose only organic. Prep you are doing with that hello fresh as well, that is part of cooking. I will pay you 50€ if you find a supermarket that will deliver to me at all (- much less fresh in 30 minutes!) in 93049 Regensburg. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 23 Dec 2022 1 hour ago, BobbyDigital said: I will pay you 50€ if you find a supermarket that will deliver to me at all (- much less fresh in 30 minutes!) in 93049 Regensburg. I keep forgetting you are living in jurassic times. Online deliveries have been available where I am since 1999 and also were available in 2 other countries I have been to a decade ago. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 23 Dec 2022 It is not about jurassic times. Western Europe has a fairer society, there are not many (real) poor people to take advantage of. So the time of the people is costly and the bracket between minimum wage and average wage is not gigantic. So if you want someone to deliver something to you then you have to expect to pay that person something close to what you make. The "Gig Economy" has been trying hard to bring those explotation systems to Europe but they didn't have that much success. But yes, there are some services that will bring food and groceries to your door super fast for unfair (to the person doing the delivery) prices, but they are still limited and operate mostly in the big cities. I personally hope those businesses die, and some went already bankrupt but there are still many operating. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 23 Dec 2022 3 hours ago, BobbyDigital said: OK. But their bad experience does not negate my good experience. (what kind of comment is that?!) I will pay you 50€ if you find a supermarket that will deliver to me at all (- much less fresh in 30 minutes!) in 93049 Regensburg. I’m glad you’ve had a good experience with Hello Fresh. I was just sharing my bad one. And it was legitimately terrible. Imagine opting out of a delivery service only to have it mysteriously start up again two years later. And then then having the people who run said service blame you for their glitch! I seriously do hope Hello Fresh has improved since I finally got them to delete my account in 2018. If they have, and you enjoy the service, then good for you. My husband did enjoy the convenience of it when they had recipes we both liked, but their customer service was legitimately terrible when we used it. We don’t miss it. Oh, and his German skills improved, due to following the recipes in German. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 24 Dec 2022 16 hours ago, Krieg said: It is not about jurassic times. Western Europe has a fairer society, there are not many (real) poor people to take advantage of. So the time of the people is costly and the bracket between minimum wage and average wage is not gigantic. So if you want someone to deliver something to you then you have to expect to pay that person something close to what you make. The "Gig Economy" has been trying hard to bring those explotation systems to Europe but they didn't have that much success. But yes, there are some services that will bring food and groceries to your door super fast for unfair (to the person doing the delivery) prices, but they are still limited and operate mostly in the big cities. I personally hope those businesses die, and some went already bankrupt but there are still many operating. Lion's share of a supermarket's costs is purchase of goods and opex, not delivery person's salary. In fact, online deliveries cost to a supermaket less since you do not take floor time. They do not need to pay someone to place the goods on the shelves for you to browse and pick up, they do not need to pay someone to calculate your bills at the checkout. Done automatically online. They can move more goods. Many supermarkets also have a minimum order amount. You pay delivery fee below that. You can also pay extra fees depending on location. So they know when you are profitable to them and give you a choice to pay more to compensate the establishment if you are not. That choice is not presented here. Brownie points for trying to justify bygone-era commie-style living under the disguise of "poor people to take advantage of" moral high-ground though, especially on a country built by migrant labour. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 24 Dec 2022 Many years ago when we had one of our deliveries from the supermarket, our old lady neighbor came and said: "There is a the same brand of supermarket in front of your building, why are you ordering online?". We explained "no time, etc". At that monent, she saw one of hte bags of rice that she also buys and asked how much it was. When we looked at the bill, it was 15% cheaper than what she pays in the same store! Needless to say We made an online account for her as well. Less overhead. Bottom line is that online shopping lowers the bills of everyone, not vice-versa. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 24 Dec 2022 Year 2022... talking about grocery shopping... I will put this, but some of you will get more angry with me... hahahahaha. Still i will put it 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 24 Dec 2022 Online grocery shopping is simply not a viable business in rural areas (not enough customers within easy reach). However, my main problem with it is that it skews the playing field against small mom and pop shops. They have been dying a slow death. Where I used to live (rural Franconia), my once favourite bakery (with grocery store attached), which also was a meeting point, closed down years ago. The municipality was trying to establish a community grocery store run by volunteers which is supposed to open only a few days per week for a few hours. Don't know how it developed. It's a saddening collateral damage. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 24 Dec 2022 1 hour ago, jeba said: Online grocery shopping is simply not a viable business in rural areas (not enough customers within easy reach). However, my main problem with it is that it skews the playing field against small mom and pop shops. They have been dying a slow death. Where I used to live (rural Franconia), my once favourite bakery (with grocery store attached), which also was a meeting point, closed down years ago. The municipality was trying to establish a community grocery store run by volunteers which is supposed to open only a few days per week for a few hours. Don't know how it developed. It's a saddening collateral damage. Except that Munich, 3rd largest city in Germany with a population of 1.6m is not a "rural" area. Online shopping does not mean the establishment will deliver everywhere. Economies of scale is at play here. With your logic, Amazon would not deliver anywhere outside the city limits. Yet they do, but shipping cost is higher. Amazon in fact teams up with your local mom-and-pop stores to handle real rural deliveries. You can go to your farmer's market and support locals. But this has to be an option for a person to decide on, not forced upon. Not everyone is retired with all the free time in the world in their hands to spend the whole day shopping veggies, and whole night cooking. World has moved on, Munich has not. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 24 Dec 2022 16 minutes ago, CountingCrows said: spend the whole day shopping veggies, and whole night cooking. Exaggerate much? 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 24 Dec 2022 I spent a bit of time gathering apples (free) in the fall. Just ate two of them in my Christmas Muesli😉 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 24 Dec 2022 3 minutes ago, Fietsrad said: I spent a bit of time gathering apples (free) in the fall. Would usually do the same with oranges and pomegranates, we're I not temporarily disabled ( broken knee). 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
