Price query about Samsung mobile phones

[LeonG 14,796]

17 hours ago, andrew_ysk said:

Confused. Didn't you said A series is sell in store while M series only sell on website, which is why it is  cheaper than A series ?

How come M33 is sold at Euro 269 on amazon while A33 is sold 209 euro ?? This is totally revered.

 

I think she said the M series is thinner and lighter than the A series so I would assume more expensive.

[PandaMunich 16,563]

The Samsung M52 5G has just been reduced to 179€ at Amazon.de: https://www.amazon.de/dp/B09FKKPTR9

 

This is the cheapest it has ever been: https://keepa.com/#!product/3-B09FKKPTR9

[Eric7 538]

That's a great price Panda!

 

After a series of iPhones, starting with the 3GS, I moved to a Samsung Note 9 four years ago.
It has everything I need & still works like the day I got it.
Advantages (for me) over newer versions:
Micro-SD slot
Headphone jack
Iris scanner
Rear fingerprint sensor (I can unlock it as I pick it up)
Ultra thin leather case - the newer models all have a chunky rubber bumper which makes the whole package much bulkier.

I considered replacing it with the S22 Ultra but just couldn't do it in the end.

[fraufruit 41,931]

22 hours ago, andrew_ysk said:

I have read the webpage of why samsung phone slows down after 2-3 years.. I indeed experienced that with all 3 of samsung phones.

 

We have never experienced that. Samsung users for many years now.

[BobbyDigital 694]

I did indeed experience that with my Galaxy s5- the planned obsolescence was obvious. And infuriating!

The Galaxy s8 and s8+ though, are both still as good as they were 4 years ago, I had the feeling that Samsung got called out somewhere between the s5 and the s8 and stopped doing that BS.

[Krieg 14,919]

Smartphone throttling, which is the technical term for intentionally making your device a bit slower, is a bit complicated and plenty of times unfair because the ones reporting these issues in the media are more interesting in creating controversy than in explaining the situation.

 

First, most modern processors have to throttle, they do this when the processor is getting too hot.    But they intentionally throttle as well in order to keep the battery life of the device, it does not make sense to run the processor at full capacity when everything you are doing at the moment is reading the screen.

 

The big complain is when after one or two years the users start to notice the phone is slightly slower than when new.  What happened after two years? The battery does not have the same capacity as as the beginning, it has now 80% or the capacity or less.  So the throttling becomes more evident if the manufacturers'  algorithms give priority to battery life.   And when manufacturers try to explain this they get abuse back, like they can change the laws of physics or something.   Most manufactures has been "caught" making their phones "sluggish" with the time, but most of the times there is a reasonable explanation, but they still had to apologize for that.   

 

In the other hand, what it is crap, at least for the user, is that of course they are not going to throttle the apps that measure performance, why?  because no manufacturer does that, so you have to give all performance you have and more to the benchmarks apps.   The problem is that at the end, this performance benchmarks are more or less useless, because they do not represent real life.

 

What I found most nonsense is that IIRC Apple actually lost a court case related to this, because they throttle the iPhones when the battery is very degraded.  They lost the case in the US and I think in UK as well.   So nowadays they let he user decide in the settings somewhere in the "Battery Health" if they want to throttle or not.   But if you do not throttle the battery will get more damage much faster and the phone will have random reboots. 

[BobbyDigital 694]

No, I'm not talking about throttling because the processor is too hot.

I'm not talking about the battery life getting worse.

 

I'm talking about the technical term planned obsolescence.

 

https://www.computerworld.com/article/3316958/apple-and-samsung-fined-for-planned-obsolescence.html

 

https://cellularnews.com/mobile-phone/planned-obsolescence/

[Krieg 14,919]

That"s EXACTLY what I tried to explain you but feel free to believe what you want.

[MadAxeMurderer 6,214]

I currently pack a 5 year old Samsung S8. Battery is getting very very slow to charge. Like more than 8 hours

 

 

I wanted not to get a Samsung again, but resolutely refuse Apple. Semi irrational Apple hatred.

Samsung really seems the only choice.

 

Now I have to choose between the s4 flip costing €1329 with 512G memory or s4 fold €1999

 

Agonizing choice. I don't have a tablet so the S4 fold is same dimensions as a phone but folds open as a tablet

S4 flip is a half phone, and has to be opened to get a screen, but can be used as a phone without opening it.

 

On Saturday I'll play with both and decide (maybe).

[Eric7 538]

I assume those are Finnish prices? The Fold 4 can be had for €1369 here in Germany. Almost worth a flight over.
I wouldn't really consider the Fold 4 a tablet replacement either, unless you want a really small tablet.
I'm waiting for the S23 Ultra in early spring. There are rumours that the awful Exynos chip is finally biting the dust.

[MadAxeMurderer 6,214]

Well those are Finnish prices, but it's all EU

 

However Saturn has: SAMSUNG Galaxy Z Fold 4 5G 256 GB Phantom Black Dual SIM for 1799.

The 512G is €1919 so that is a saving of €80

 

What mean you the "awful Exynos chip"? I try to avoid awful chips.

[Eric7 538]

https://geizhals.de/samsung-galaxy-z-fold-4-f936b-ds-512gb-phantom-black-a2789098.html?hloc=de

 

Mindfactory and Alternate are both reputable dealers that I've ordered plenty of expensive kit from in the past.

 

For the last few years at least, Samsung has produced 2 versions of their flagship S phones. The US models got the cutting edge Snapdragon chips from Qualcomm while the EU versions got a Samsung chip (Exynos). The gap has narrowed with the latest versions but the Snapdragon has always been ahead when it comes to speed, battery life and even things like the camera processing.

The Fold 4 uses the Snapdragon btw, so no worries there.

[MadAxeMurderer 6,214]

Interesting prices but dreadful website.

I got to the point where I had to choose a Versandart. Could not work out how to choose a Versandart. Anything I clocked just asked did I really want to leave the site.

 

Aha big red letters:  Bitte wählen Sie die gewünschte Versandart für Ihre Bestellung aus.

Discrete blue: Auf Grund der aktuellen Situation können Lieferungen ausschließlich innerhalb Deutschlands erfolgen. Wir bitten Sie daher, eine deutsche Lieferadresse zu hinterlegen oder unseren Abholservice zu nutzen.

 

I do have a German address. It would cost me a bit to get it forwarded however.

But I also want to pay with a credit card, or bank transfer. Because I want to buy from my company, not personally.

 

And thanks for the Snapdragon explanation. We want Snappy

[fraufruit 41,931]

Is it possible to just get a new battery? We have done that a few times over the years.

 

Or order a used one. We do that now every 3 or 4 years - whenever needed. 

 

1k for a phone? Never!

[MadAxeMurderer 6,214]

The days of changing the battery on your phone or notebook are long over. It might be possible to get as shop to replace it.

I need a 2nd phone anyway. I recently whinged to a bank IT dude about what happens if you lose your phone. Everything banking happens on the phone. 

 

He said you use your backup phone.

I don't have a backup...

Then you're an idiot

 

Cruel but true.

[HH_Sailor 3,529]

1 hour ago, MadAxeMurderer said:

The days of changing the battery on your phone or notebook are long over.

 

Not quite true.

Fairphone

 

The fairphone, built in NL, has changeable parts (camera, battery, and more)

And is priced in the mid range

 

I used mine for the last two years

[MadAxeMurderer 6,214]

@HH_SailorThanks for posting that. Really interesting.

 

And since I claim to be a green dude (fair trade is great, but not as important as green) it suits me.

How do you like it?

 

To be honest, except that the battery is dying, there's nothing about my 5 year old phone that makes it too old.

It's just the battery, and to have a backup for when I lose/kill my main phone.

[HH_Sailor 3,529]

The FP3 is fine. Camera is good, size and weight ok. Even useful as a telephone

Battery life is a little weak after 2 yrs.

I charge it overnight, every night.

 

The FP4 has eSIM capabilities. Useful for me when travelling outside the EU. So I am waiting for my 3 to break sufficiently to warrant the upgrade to 4

 

 

[keith2011 2,571]

Just wanted to give some feedback and thank everyone who helped me get such a good price on my new A33 5g, great phone and very easy to switch nearly everything over from my old one (Samsung to Samsung) just lost a couple of WhatsApp messages as I forgot I only did a backup per week. Best price currently is over €50,- more expensive so many thanks again.

[PandaMunich 16,563]

On 15/12/2022, 10:26:12, keith2011 said:

Just wanted to give some feedback and thank everyone who helped me get such a good price on my new A33 5g, great phone and very easy to switch nearly everything over from my old one (Samsung to Samsung) just lost a couple of WhatsApp messages as I forgot I only did a backup per week. Best price currently is over €50,- more expensive so many thanks again.

Thanks for the update!