type of grain grown in germany. getreide

[andrew_ysk 13]

I have lived in germany for so many years, but i have no idea what grain are produced in germany and their planting time.
I know wheat (weizen) are grown locally, but no idea when.
Is there spring wheat or autumn wheat ??
When to plant weizen, hafer, dingkel... and ..., i am so confused with all these names.. no idea why i only saw weizenmehl in Markt, but no dingkel mehl  ..or hafer mehl.. Confusing.

Some time i saw wheat looking crops in the field in autumn, sometime in spring..
Can anybody tell me all the grain crop and time to plant  that able to grow in germany ?

Appreciated.

Thanks.

[jubinjohn 239]

I think most if the grains are imported from eastern europe. Rye, Dinkel, Buchweizen and others are almost exotic , so usually found in bio only shops. And expensive. There they are in plenty. Also other sorts like amaranth or quinoa . 

I think what germany has in abundance is potato only . Please tell me I am wrong .

[PandaMunich 16,600]

20 minutes ago, jubinjohn said:

I think most if the grains are imported from eastern europe. 

I think what germany has in abundance is potato only . Please tell me I am wrong .

Germany grows 125% of the wheat it consumes itself (Weichweizen, i.e. what is used for white bread), see here.

--> the rest gets exported.

 

Please also see here: https://www.bmel-statistik.de/ernaehrung-fischerei/versorgungsbilanzen/getreide

--> scroll down to the graph at the bottom, and change the drop-down menus to:

Produkt: Weichweizen

Position: Selbstversorgungsgrad in % (= degree of self-sufficiency in %)

and you will get this:

[Fietsrad 386]

Hartweizen (for wholemeal bread?) only 15%.

[PandaMunich 16,600]

No, Hartweizen (durum wheat) is what is used for making pasta.

We buy it from Canada, Italy, France and Spain: https://www-agrarheute-com.translate.goog/markt/marktfruechte/hartweizen-verzweifelt-gesucht-getreidemuehlen-zahlen-fast-preis-585664?_x_tr_sl=de&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-US&_x_tr_pto=wapp

 

Just so you know, we didn't import that much grain from Ukraine, only maize for feeding cattle/pigs/poultry and that can be replaced by grains we produce that aren't of food grade, i.e. that are not good enough to be used in bread: https://www-agrarheute-com.translate.goog/markt/marktfruechte/hat-europa-genug-getreide-um-versorgen-fakten-594000?_x_tr_sl=de&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-US&_x_tr_pto=wapp

[Gambatte 900]

55 minutes ago, andrew_ysk said:

i am so confused with all these names.. no idea why i only saw weizenmehl in Markt, but no dingkel mehl  ..or hafer mehl.. Confusing.

I buy regularly Hafen (bran?) grains, and Roggen (Rye) and Dinkel (Barley) flour in the normal supermarket. 

What do you actually find confusing?

I thought all this stuff follow the year cycle, so there's no such a thing as "spring wheat", or "autumn wheat"

[maxie 602]

1 hour ago, jubinjohn said:

Please tell me I am wrong .

You're wrong  See PandaMunich's very detailled post. 

 

What is actually planted depends on the area you are. 

 

Around here (Rhine valley): 

Winter wheat, summer wheat, triticale, some barley, some oats, a little bit of millet (rare). All the corn/maize grown is feed (silage) quality and not suitable for human consumption. 

We generally have very good soil here and there are quite a few vegetables grown here as well - onions, scallions, leeks, radishes, beans, cabbage - which bring in more money than grains. 

 

I know that there is quite a bit of rye in Eastern Germany. 

49 minutes ago, Gambatte said:

Dinkel (Barley)

Achtung: Dinkel = spelt, afaik 

Barley is Gerste 

 

Depending on where you are, you might find a small mill that also offers some of the more exotic grain flours for baking bread. 

[Fietsrad 386]

Seems a bit crazy. Germany produces more than enough grain, but enormous amounts are exported and imported.

 

Because that makes money and is too easy and cheap. And to be fed to animals who are then shipped somewhere else, perhaps back to the place where their food was grown.

 

There are at least a couple of bread museums in Germany: Ebergotzen and Ulm.

[maxie 602]

It is also a question of quality. To make bread, you need wheat with a certain protein content. Most of the wheat grown is feed wheat and even if you try to grow bread wheat, it might not turn out the way you want because of the weather - temperature and rainfall and their timing have a huge influence. Agriculture is not for the faint of heart. I could not do it.  

[Fietsrad 386]

What is Gerstensaft? (Barley juice😉)

[Tap 8,460]

2 minutes ago, Fietsrad said:

What is Gerstensaft? (Barley juice😉)

 

Yes, when I was young (in Ireland), we were often given barley water, which was a lemon flavoured barley juice.  Good for all sorts of ailments, apparently.

[skinnypuppy 87]

2 hours ago, Fietsrad said:

What is Gerstensaft? (Barley juice😉)

It's the German (and Irish) national beverage! Usually about 4-4.5 % alcohol.

[maxie 602]

3 hours ago, Tap said:

barley water, which was a lemon flavoured barley juice

How did it taste? 

[Tap 8,460]

17 minutes ago, maxie said:

How did it taste? 

 

It tasted nice, it was a summer soft drink. It could be called a cordial or a squash.  People in the UK and Ireland can still get it, Robnson's Lemon Barley Water.  Nothing strange about it.

[RedMidge 6,638]

4 hours ago, Tap said:

 

It tasted nice, it was a summer soft drink. It could be called a cordial or a squash.  People in the UK and Ireland can still get it, Robnson's Lemon Barley Water.  Nothing strange about it.

Ah-Barley water, Lucozade- always good when sick. Barley water very refreshing.

[andrew_ysk 13]

14 hours ago, jubinjohn said:

I think most if the grains are imported from eastern europe. Rye, Dinkel, Buchweizen and others are almost exotic , so usually found in bio only shops. And expensive. There they are in plenty. Also other sorts like amaranth or quinoa . 

I think what germany has in abundance is potato only . Please tell me I am wrong .

only potato ? oh boy! I do see wheat on field.. but have no idea when they plant it.

[andrew_ysk 13]

14 hours ago, Gambatte said:

I buy regularly Hafen (bran?) grains, and Roggen (Rye) and Dinkel (Barley) flour in the normal supermarket. 

What do you actually find confusing?

I thought all this stuff follow the year cycle, so there's no such a thing as "spring wheat", or "autumn wheat"

Hafer is bran ? I don't think bran is edible.. but Hafer is edible.. All these stuff are confusing.. 
You know, my friend's son were asked where egg comes from, and he said from supermarket.. That's all he knows.. ha! We are so so degenerated, not knowing where our food comes from.. only know we get food from cash. That's so wrong.

Actually, if you ask me when wheat is planted? or what's the difference between Hafer, i won't know as well..
It is not right to NOT know what we eat.. maybe it come from food printer.. lol.

 

 

[andrew_ysk 13]

13 hours ago, maxie said:

You're wrong  See PandaMunich's very detailled post. 

 

What is actually planted depends on the area you are. 

 

Around here (Rhine valley): 

Winter wheat, summer wheat, triticale, some barley, some oats, a little bit of millet (rare). All the corn/maize grown is feed (silage) quality and not suitable for human consumption. 

We generally have very good soil here and there are quite a few vegetables grown here as well - onions, scallions, leeks, radishes, beans, cabbage - which bring in more money than grains. 

 

I know that there is quite a bit of rye in Eastern Germany. 

Achtung: Dinkel = spelt, afaik 

Barley is Gerste 

 

Depending on where you are, you might find a small mill that also offers some of the more exotic grain flours for baking bread. 

That's for some good info.
Any idea when they grow Dinkel (spelt) and Gerste (barley) in your area ?
I don't even know Barley is produced in germany as well, i always went to uk to buy a few bag when i goes there.. I like to purchase Pearl Barley which is smooth texture. How come i never able to find pearl barley in germany ??

 

 

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[andrew_ysk 13]

12 hours ago, Tap said:

 

Yes, when I was young (in Ireland), we were often given barley water, which was a lemon flavoured barley juice.  Good for all sorts of ailments, apparently.

I know wheat grass juice, but barley juice ?  what's the difference in taste ?  I want to try to grow some barley and wheat, just to know what's the difference.. But i don't know when they are suppose to be sown.

 

[Elljay 519]

I believe Hafer is oats.