Roe v Wade

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14 hours ago, JG52 said:

I suppose it's a small consolation that Norma McCorvey (Jane Roe) died in 2017 and is beyond this nonsense.

 

Well, the baby that this was all about is still alive: 

These articles were linked from this article: https://nypost.com/2022/06/24/who-is-the-roe-v-wade-plaintiff-jane-roe/

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Anti abortionists must think knitting needles are a good thing. I wonder what percentage of them are women.

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Yes it is terrible,

 

But why does noone say anything about Southern Ireland or Poland? They are in the EU and abortion is almost completely illegal there... just saying!

 

(see links)

 

https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2022/01/poland-regression-on-abortion-access-harms-women/

 

https://www.amnesty.org.uk/issues/Abortion-in-Ireland-and-Northern-Ireland

 

Many women have died, including those who had a planned pregnancy and miscarried. Due to a heart beat law they did not remove the baby until the heart stopped. The mother died from sepsis.

 

(see link below)

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-22201598

 

https://www.thejournal.ie/eighth-amendment-4-3977441-Apr2018/

 

https://edition.cnn.com/2013/04/19/world/europe/ireland-abortion-controversy-inquest/index.html

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14 minutes ago, Anna66 said:

But why does noone say anything about Southern Ireland or Poland? They are in the EU and abortion is almost completely illegal there... just saying!

 

Ireland?    "Abortion is permitted in Ireland during the first 12 weeks of pregnancy, and later in cases where the pregnant woman's life or health is at risk, or in the cases of a fatal foetal abnormality.. Abortion services commenced on 1 January 2019,"  

 

Poland is very restrictive (only to save mother's life and pregnancy caused by rape).

 

Malta is the most restrictive in EU, as someone has said. 

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2 minutes ago, snowingagain said:

 

Ireland?    "Abortion is permitted in Ireland during the first 12 weeks of pregnancy, and later in cases where the pregnant woman's life or health is at risk, or in the cases of a fatal foetal abnormality.. Abortion services commenced on 1 January 2019,"  

 

Poland is very restrictive (only to save mother's life and pregnancy caused by rape).

 

Malta is the most restrictive in EU, as someone has said. 

 

You are correct. Thanks for the updated information. I checked it out (see link).

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abortion_in_the_Republic_of_Ireland

 

They ammended the law in 2018. I guess because of the death caused by the previous law which was almost a complete ban. In fact the link above states that this was the case.

 

(see link below)

 

https://edition.cnn.com/2013/04/19/world/europe/ireland-abortion-controversy-inquest/index.html

 

 

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3 hours ago, Anna66 said:

They ammended the law in 2018. I guess because of the death caused by the previous law which was almost a complete ban. In fact the link above states that this was the case.

 

This just happened in Malta, see:  How an Abortion Ban Trapped a Tourist on Malta - The New York Times (nytimes.com)

The tourist in question managed to release herself from hospital against doctors advice and fly to Spain.

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7 hours ago, murphaph said:

"They" being the people of Ireland, as abortion was constitutionally banned in most cases.

 

The needless, almost callous death of Savita Halappanavar was the straw that broke the camel's back.

 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thirty-sixth_Amendment_of_the_Constitution_of_Ireland

 

Ireland and the United States it seems are on very different trajectories here.

I had never heard of that lady, Savita. I have googled the background. Truly terrible.

https://www.irishcentral.com/news/savita-halappanavar

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On 6/25/2022, 12:03:57, murphaph said:

Ireland and the United States it seems are on very different trajectories here.

Indeed, but the hope is, sadly, that after probably many tragedies like Savita's, voters in the US will also see sense and elect representatives that don't have their heads up their own sphincter.

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I honestly didn't realise that so many states, especially the likes of Michigan would be likely to ban abortion. 

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If a woman is raped at gunpoint and becomes pregnant, the gun is the most protected party in that situation.

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On 25.6.2022, 11:14:49, Anna66 said:

But why does noone say anything about Southern Ireland or Poland? They are in the EU and abortion is almost completely illegal there... just saying!

 

I think the shocking part in US is going back and removing a right. It creates a precedent for many others.

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9 hours ago, MikeMelga said:

I think the shocking part in US is going back and removing a right. It creates a precedent for many others.

Why are you requoting an inaccurate post? It was already explained above that abortion is now legal in the Irish Republic, albeit it took a shocking death to ultimately swing the change.

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22 hours ago, MikeMelga said:

I think the shocking part in US is going back and removing a right. It creates a precedent for many others.

 

Where will they start? Education maybe...

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Since this thread seems to have been split from the Only in America thread by an admin (?), I don't understand why it doesn't include the 40+ posts from the Only in America thread on this subject.

 

Taken together, though, the number of posts on TT on this subject seems surprisingly small.

 

Over on TT's sister site, English Forum Switzerland, there's a thread on Roe v. Wade running to 13 pages with 20 posts per page.

 

Must be a reflection of the comparatively scant traffic on TT now. Shame.

 

 

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