Does wildlachs really mean "wild caught"?

[lux7 48]

I'm looking to try wild-caught salmon.

 

And some offers on Rewe seem too cheaply priced to be the real deal.

 

For example:

 

• Beste Wahl Wildlachsfilet Rewe: 3.99 for 250 grams
• Followfish Wildlachs Filet ohne Haut: 5.99 for 200 grams (less than the bio version from the same producer, which makes no sense to me if it were really wild-caught)

 

Any idea on this?
 

https://snipboard.io/Bw0oXv.jpg

 

[Catastrophe 86]

Well,
the german name for Oncorhynchus keta is 'Hundslachs' - therefore I guess it's theoretically okay to sell it as 'Wildlachs'. But it's not Salmo salar. It's up to you wether you want to call it salmon or not.

[fraufruit 42,166]

Wild caught salmon will have gefangen somewhere on the package or at the Fischtheke instead of Aquakultur. That means farmed.

 

I don't care for Wildlachs at all.

[arsenal21 401]

35 minutes ago, Catastrophe said:

Well,
the german name for Oncorhynchus keta is 'Hundslachs' - therefore I guess it's theoretically okay to sell it as 'Wildlachs'. But it's not Salmo salar. It's up to you wether you want to call it salmon or not.

 

This is the right answer. Salmo salar is the nice sort of Atlantic salmon. The Oncorhyncho-whatever is Pacific salmon and not as nice at all.

[lux7 48]

Thanks guys!

 

You're losing me with your depth of knowledge though :D.

 

Some questions:

 

2 hours ago, fraufruit said:

Wild caught salmon will have gefangen somewhere on the package or at the Fischtheke instead of Aquakultur. That means farmed.

 

I don't care for Wildlachs at all.

 

Thanks, that makes sense.

What if the package has neither?
Then presumably they're trying to hide the fact it's Acquakultur, I guess?

 

2 hours ago, Catastrophe said:

Well,
the german name for Oncorhynchus keta is 'Hundslachs' - therefore I guess it's theoretically okay to sell it as 'Wildlachs'. But it's not Salmo salar. It's up to you wether you want to call it salmon or not.

 

 

Thanks!

 

What do you mean whether you want to call it salmon or not?

It either is a salmon, or not, or am I missing something.

 

1 hour ago, arsenal21 said:

 

This is the right answer. Salmo salar is the nice sort of Atlantic salmon. The Oncorhyncho-whatever is Pacific salmon and not as nice at all.

 

So you guys are saying that it might be wild-caught, but not the good quality?

Is that correct?

 

Still, most wild-caught pacific would still be better than most farmed, I'd guess?

 

BTW, from what I've read Sockeye is good.

 

Edit: fixed typos.

[BayrischDude 2,073]

After 35 years of living here, I still laugh when I see 'Lachsschinken'.  I mentally picture a pig swimming upstream to spawn on a gravel bed.

[fraufruit 42,166]

Wildlachs does not mean wild caught unless it says gefangen on the package. It is another type of fish. Forget all the fancy names here - it is not the normal salmon to which I think you are referring.

 

18 minutes ago, lux7 said:

What if the package has neither?

 

Don't buy it.

 

I eat a piece of grilled salmon once or twice a week. I love it.

 

[kenny1948 64]

There are many varieties of Salmon.  Just because it is wild caught, does not make it good!  Much of the Salmon I see here is Atlantic Salmon ( Aquaculture ) but it usually says so right on the package.  Most people prefer it.  If you truly like nice red Salmon, that Wildlachs, you will not find very appealing.

[HEM 11,160]

33 minutes ago, BayrischDude said:

After 35 years of living here, I still laugh when I see 'Lachsschinken'.  I mentally picture a pig swimming upstream to spawn on a gravel bed.

 

How about Lammlachs?   Delicious.

[lux7 48]

1 hour ago, kenny1948 said:

There are many varieties of Salmon.  Just because it is wild caught, does not make it good!  Much of the Salmon I see here is Atlantic Salmon ( Aquaculture ) but it usually says so right on the package.  Most people prefer it.  If you truly like nice red Salmon, that Wildlachs, you will not find very appealing.

 

Of course not always, nobody says that. But on average, wild-caught is better than farmed.

 

Edit: fixed typo

[fraufruit 42,166]

Just now, lux7 said:

battered than farmed

 

Now we're getting into salmon and chips territory.

[lux7 48]

1 hour ago, fraufruit said:

Wildlachs does not mean wild caught unless it says gefangen on the package. It is another type of fish. Forget all the fancy names here - it is not the normal salmon to which I think you are referring.

 

 

Don't buy it.

 

 

Thank you, very helpful! 

[Metall 14,539]

2 hours ago, Catastrophe said:

Well,
the german name for Oncorhynchus keta is 'Hundslachs' - therefore I guess it's theoretically okay to sell it as 'Wildlachs'. But it's not Salmo salar. It's up to you wether you want to call it salmon or not.

From https://die-ganze-portion.de/wie-schmeckt-verdorbener-lachs-2/ : (in a nutshell, it's a different fish with less fat, softer, and less tasty overall)

Geschmack von Keta-Lachs (Hund) 

Dieser Lachs ist auch als Dog, Silverbrite, Keta und unter anderen Namen bekannt. Von den fünf pazifischen Lachsarten ist er die am wenigsten bekannte. Im Vergleich zu Chinook und Sockeye hat er einen geringeren Fettgehalt und einen zarteren, weicheren Geschmack. Der Hundslachs ist ideal für alle, die den kräftigen Geschmack von Lachs nicht mögen und für Rezepte, die viel Feuchtigkeit benötigen, wie z. B. Chowders und Currys.

[snowingagain 5,354]

So, are you all saying you are eating fresh, wild-caught Atlantic salmon.  I am impressed.  I have had it in the UK and Ireland.  Rich man's food though.    Farmed, of course is everywhere.  But is not really sustainable as a mass-produced fish.   

 

 

[lux7 48]

10 hours ago, snowingagain said:

So, are you all saying you are eating fresh, wild-caught Atlantic salmon.  I am impressed.  I have had it in the UK and Ireland.  Rich man's food though.    Farmed, of course is everywhere.  But is not really sustainable as a mass-produced fish.   

 

Nah man, it's food for those who want to eat well.

 

When I get it in Italy it's less than 9.20 a can: https://www.salmone-selvaggio.it/dettaglio-prodotto/i-tesori-del-mare/salmone-selvaggio/in-olio-di-oliva/filetti-di-salmone-rosso-in-olio-di-oliva-scatoletta/.

 

You can mix it with locally freshly caught fishes like sardines, mackerel (also available in cans in DE), and various clams, all very cheap (and sustainable), and it's no more expensive than a meat-based meal.

[lux7 48]

10 hours ago, Metall said:

From https://die-ganze-portion.de/wie-schmeckt-verdorbener-lachs-2/ : (in a nutshell, it's a different fish with less fat, softer, and less tasty overall)

Geschmack von Keta-Lachs (Hund) 

Dieser Lachs ist auch als Dog, Silverbrite, Keta und unter anderen Namen bekannt. Von den fünf pazifischen Lachsarten ist er die am wenigsten bekannte. Im Vergleich zu Chinook und Sockeye hat er einen geringeren Fettgehalt und einen zarteren, weicheren Geschmack. Der Hundslachs ist ideal für alle, die den kräftigen Geschmack von Lachs nicht mögen und für Rezepte, die viel Feuchtigkeit benötigen, wie z. B. Chowders und Currys.

 

I might be wrong, but it doesn't seem to say it's a different fish, it says it's a sub-type of salmon, like the more popular Sockeye and King Salmon are.

[jeba 4,363]

37 minutes ago, lux7 said:

 

I might be wrong, but it doesn't seem to say it's a different fish, it says it's a sub-type of salmon, like the more popular Sockeye and King Salmon are.

As I understand it it´s a different variety of the same species. Just like a husky is as much a dog as a terrier, even though they are quite different.

[snowingagain 5,354]

3 hours ago, lux7 said:

Nah man, it's food for those who want to eat well.

 

When I get it in Italy it's less than 9.20 a can: https://www.salmone-selvaggio.it/dettaglio-prodotto/i-tesori-del-mare/salmone-selvaggio/in-olio-di-oliva/filetti-di-salmone-rosso-in-olio-di-oliva-scatoletta/.

 

I was talking about wild Altantic fresh caught salmon.     You can get it smoked here, about 150 euros per kilo upwards.  Which I call rich man's food.   The tinned one you mention is pink, sockeye salmon from the Pacific.   I am not a huge fan of tinned fish, but tinned in oliver oil with lemon sounds good.  

 

[snowingagain 5,354]

3 hours ago, jeba said:

As I understand it it´s a different variety of the same species. Just like a husky is as much a dog as a terrier, even though they are quite different.

Atlantic salmon are different species and genus and do not interbreed with Pacific ones.  They are closer related to trout, and they do interbreed.

[lux7 48]

10 hours ago, jeba said:

As I understand it it´s a different variety of the same species. Just like a husky is as much a dog as a terrier, even though they are quite different.

 

Yeah, same here, and perfect analogy :)