The War in Ukraine

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6 minutes ago, optimista said:

rape has always been part of war.

 

We all know that.

 

They don't need a uniform to be rapists or serial rapists.

 

This is just the first report than I have read about it and I'm sure it is only the tip of the iceberg.

 

What I don't get is that the Russians know that all of their communications are compromised yet they still have to brag about it. It used to be more "discreet" if one can say that.

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12 minutes ago, fraufruit said:

 

 

 

What I don't get is that the Russians know that all of their communications are compromised yet they still have to brag about it. It used to be more "discreet" if one can say that.

 

Your average Russian soldier comes from some very poor areas of the Russian Federation and maybe lacks basic education and  maybe after their training morality, many were brutalised during training in the past. They're also very young so bragging is part of their immaturity.

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Might belong to the flummox thread, but just read that Russia is renaming IKEA to IDEA and Mc Donald's to Uncle Vanya:huh:.

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12 hours ago, keith2011 said:

Yet a man with an anti-tank missile launcher on his shoulder can take it out!

A Panzerfaust in the SWW had a range of about 70 metres although they´d usually try for 40-50 metres.

The modern Javelin (which are in use in Ukraine) has a range of between 2-2.5km.

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10 hours ago, fraufruit said:

They don't need a uniform to be rapists or serial rapists.

 

 

 

Seems to help though. 

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Following up on a previous post, rise in Russian spying activity alarms European capitals.

 

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Keeping track of the Kremlin’s espionage activity in the west has become an even more urgent task since Russia’s invasion of Ukraine upended Europe’s security order. But many countries are still playing catch-up with Moscow’s undercover activity on their soil.

 

“What we know about [it] is almost certainly the tip of the iceberg,” said Keir Giles, senior consulting fellow of the Russia programme at Chatham House. “For many years there has been a conspiracy of silence, with western powers reluctant to talk about Russian activities or even go after them.”

 

Eight serving European intelligence officials and diplomats interviewed by the Financial Times said Russia’s covert operations in Europe had been expanding at a rate that counter-espionage efforts have struggled to match. Several countries still rely on US and UK intelligence gathering because of restrictions on domestic surveillance and a lack of resources.

 

A round of expulsions this month points to the scale of the problem. In addition to the Slovak defenestration, three Baltic states and Bulgaria announced expulsions of 20 alleged Russian agents in total. And Poland declared 45 Russian diplomats personae non gratae, alleging all to be using diplomatic cover to undertake intelligence work.

 

Some countries, such as the UK, are confident they have reduced Russian capacity significantly, with agent numbers in Britain in the low single digits, according to one senior Whitehall official. But other countries are more exposed. Dozens of Russian agents are still active in Germany, France and Belgium, according to the assessment of one European intelligence official.

 

Austria is a “veritable aircraft carrier” of covert Russian activity, said another. Its BVT intelligence agency is regarded as being so compromised that for a time it was cut out of much European intelligence sharing activity, according to one Vienna-based European diplomat. The country’s defence ministry is “practically a department of the GRU”, the diplomat added.

 

An Austrian chancellery official said they could not comment on anonymous allegations but pointed out that the current government has been pushing through sweeping reform of its security agencies.

 

“We are beginning to see governments in Europe start to face up publicly to what is happening,” said Giles. “Democracies can’t defend themselves against threats about which the majority of their population is unaware.” 

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, AlexTr said:

“We are beginning to see governments in Europe start to face up publicly to what is happening,” said Giles. “Democracies can’t defend themselves against threats about which the majority of their population is unaware.” 

Indeed, the invasion of the Ukraine has been a very loud wake up call across the board for Europe and Germany in particular and  not only on the economic front!

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A little bit more whataboutism - I know you love to ignore it because as a direct consequence out of the Ukriane war it has of course no relevance for the Ukriane war:

 

https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/food-chief-ukraine-wars-food-crisis-worst-wwii-83752881

 

UN predicts worst hunger crisis scince WWII.

 

I think I mentioned I work in the food industry. I can confirm this. The prognosis for the supply of the world with food is very grim. The situation is very serious.

 

So yes, let's hope and pray that the negotiations will be successful and that the breadbasket of the world will be able to produce again.

 

Hopefully the warmongers will not prevail. Especially not the fanatics behind their keyboards.

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And one more:

 

https://www.tagesschau.de/wirtschaft/habeck-fruehwarnstufe-notfallplan-gas-101.html

 

Shall I mention that the German food industry is at the moment desperately trying to get high on the priority list so that if Stufe 3 is reached we will still get gas supplies. Gas is our main energy supply in that industry. Yes all companies are being ranked at the moment according to their relavance. If we find no solution and gas will get scarce production will  cease in some industries staring with the lowest ranked.

 

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20 hours ago, optimista said:

(Repeated gang) rape has always been part of war. Utterly, utterly harrowing.

 

The Russians under Stalin particularly used it as a weapon of war during WW2 and what is happening now is just a continuation of that.However there have been  lots of instances of British and American troops committing rape.

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Countries really need to think of how to put pressure on China.

 

Reported by the BBC:

The foreign ministers of China and Russia have met in China, prior to a meeting of government representatives from countries which border Afghanistan.

According to China’s state media, China's Foreign Minister Wang Yi said that relations between the two countries have withstood new tests presented by a changing international situation.

Wang said China was ready to take their relationship “into a new era” and “to a higher level”.

Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov briefed his Chinese counterpart on the “special military operation” in Ukraine, as Moscow has repeatedly described its invasion of the country.

Lavrov said the two countries “oppose hegemonism and power politics” and “uphold the principles of the UN”.

He said "Russia is committed to cooling

 

"oppose hegemonism" Someone needs to tell them what Hegemony means. Fucking hypocrites.

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Does the Ukrainian army not have artillery? Or have they all been destroyed? All the reports essentially say Russian Forces have more or less ground to a halt, which makes them sitting ducks. Even mortar platoons can wreak damage if the targets are just waiting to be picked off. 

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Seven busses packed with Russian soldiers suffering from Acute Radiation Syndrome arrived to #Belarus from the #Ukrainian #Chernobyl exclusion zone. Source: member of public council of state #Ukraine agency of exclusion zone Yaroslav Yemelyanenko via Unian news agency.

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They didn't know. Ukrainian workers at Chernobyl NPP asked soldiers holding them at gun pt why they were driving & camping in Red Forest, Russians had never heard of 1986 disaster or word "Chernobyl," didn't even know they'd seized a NPP, just told it's "strategic infrastructure"

 

 

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