Head of German navy steps down over Ukraine

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3 minutes ago, Sannerl said:

 

French bean said: before Gorbochov and only a small period (Yeltsin) until 1991...

So everything's golden with Putin? Seriously?

Obviously not (from your own reply cited here) - nice that your wife has kept a sense of humor.

 

French bean wrote post Gorbachev the people had basic freedoms. My point was that basic freedoms didn't start in 1991 and the idea that they did is laughable.

 

My wife (or is the correct term Herself?) is relatively neutral on Putin, leaning slightly to positive. He's certainly preferable compared to many "western" leaders (Johnson, Trump, Biden etc.).

 

And please, name one leader or country where "everything is golden".

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40 minutes ago, Eric7 said:

 

French bean wrote post Gorbachev the people had basic freedoms. My point was that basic freedoms didn't start in 1991 and the idea that they did is laughable.

 

My wife (or is the correct term Herself?) is relatively neutral on Putin, leaning slightly to positive. He's certainly preferable compared to many "western" leaders (Johnson, Trump, Biden etc.).

 

And please, name one leader or country where "everything is golden".

 

No, she didn't. She wrote with Gorbachev.

Just read again what she wrote and try to understand it this time.

And learn about sarcasm while you're at it.

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49 minutes ago, BethAnnBitt said:

Here’s an interesting article, 20 years old, speaking to that idea.

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/gorbachev-hero-or-holy-fool-1.1046467

 

To some extent it does not matter whether he was a fool or not, basically the fact is, he was the leader of the USSR, he decided to end the USSR and he let all those country's become free to choice their way forward, rather than being controlled by Russia.

 

Now under Putin, he wants them back, sorry Putin the history has already been written, these country's have decided that they want to be associated with the west not Russia. They all had the choice, Belarus  has decided to stay close to Russia, under its dictator.

 

It would be like a free ( from the EU ), Britain deciding that it made a mistake in in letting the colonial  country's go, and try to re take them, because that's the way it used to be, sorry wake up. Britain gave up those country's and it cannot go around now and think it has a right to have them back. The counties have the right to choice what they do, just like the Ukraine, its not really Russia's business.

 

Or some guy goes to a casino and says his father lost a shit load of money in the casino, and asks for the money back, because his father made a mistake.

 

Face it, hate him or love him, gorbachev gave away the USSR country's and its ridiculous for Putin to come 30 years later and say, he dis agreed with the decision and he wants to take back that decision.  History has already been written

 

 

 

 

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51 minutes ago, Eric7 said:

 

And please, name one leader or country where "everything is golden".

There isn't one but there isn't a another country in western Europe that ran Gulags, carried out mass pograms on its own people, starved millions of Ukrainians (The Holodomor) arrested and summarily executed 100'000s of its own citizens on a whim. Tell me those things didn't happen. we again have summary arrests of opposition leaders, assassination of dissenters, annexation of other territories and the propping up of dubious regimes, yes, I know the Americans do the same but with Russia its about bringing back the old Soviet union.

@Sannerl Last time I looked I was a full blooded male.

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1 hour ago, Eric7 said:

My wife (or is the correct term Herself?) is relatively neutral on Putin, leaning slightly to positive. He's certainly preferable compared to many "western" leaders (Johnson, Trump, Biden etc.).

 

 

I knew you are Russian or Russia-affiliated. Russia = antivax 

 

 

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1 hour ago, French bean said:

I know the Americans do the same but with Russia its about bringing back the old Soviet union.

Americans are unable to annex the fucking Puerto Rico. 

 

Russians dream of annexing Alaska (also historically Russian). They are waiting patiently when the US army will be weak, and do it. Believe me. 

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10 minutes ago, yourkeau said:

Americans are unable to annex the fucking Puerto Rico. 

 

Russians dream of annexing Alaska (also historically Russian). They are waiting patiently when the US army will be weak, and do it. Believe me. 

Well, 30 years ago at least they managed to invade Panama.

Would you want to fight a war over Alaska?

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1 hour ago, yesterday said:

To some extent it does not matter whether he was a fool or not, basically the fact is, he was the leader of the USSR, he decided to end the USSR and he let all those country's become free to choice their way forward, rather than being controlled by Russia.

It is illusionary to think that democratic ideals can beat military power. You shouldn´t allow the perfect to get into the way of the achievable, which is accepting the status quo and live peacefully, growing the economy all the way.

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27 minutes ago, yourkeau said:

Americans are unable to annex the fucking Puerto Rico. 

 

Why would they want to? No cheese down that hole.

 

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    Puerto Rico is not a U.S. state. Rather, it is an unincorporated U.S. territory. This means that although the island is under the sovereignty of the United States, the U.S. Constitution does not fully apply to the territory or its people.

     

 

This is enough.

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58 minutes ago, yourkeau said:

 

I knew you are Russian or Russia-affiliated. Russia = antivax 

 

 

 

You're a very simplistic creature aren't you?

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1 hour ago, yourkeau said:

Russians dream of annexing Alaska (also historically Russian). They are waiting patiently when the US army will be weak, and do it. Believe me. 

 

This is true.
It's the fantasy of all the Russians I know to one day reclaim the paradise that is Alaska.
Don't expect them to wait until the US army is weak, either. I've heard about secret plans to make it happen much sooner than you think.

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1 hour ago, yourkeau said:

Russians dream of annexing Alaska (also historically Russian). They are waiting patiently when the US army will be weak, and do it. Believe me. 

 

16 minutes ago, Eric7 said:

This is true.
It's the fantasy of all the Russians I know to one day reclaim the paradise that is Alaska.
Don't expect them to wait until the US army is weak, either. I've heard about secret plans to make it happen much sooner than you think.

 

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21 minutes ago, Eric7 said:

 

This is true.
It's the fantasy of all the Russians I know to one day reclaim the paradise that is Alaska.
Don't expect them to wait until the US army is weak, either. I've heard about secret plans to make it happen much sooner than you think.

 

Would imagine it will be a cold day in hell when this occurs

 

 

 

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Even the Russian government is not stupid and arrogant enough to try to invade the US anywhere. Fuck. Have you met many of us? We Americans are a scary bunch of crazies looking for a cause behind which to unite. Errrbody be running their asses to Anchorage if this even looked like it would happen.

 

That's just some dumbass shit there. Fucking Russia coming up to Alaska! Hysterical. 

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Be fun to watch the Oathkeepers, Proud Boys, Black Panthers and NFAC run joint ops. 😂😂😂

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1 hour ago, Eric7 said:

 

This is true.
It's the fantasy of all the Russians I know to one day reclaim the paradise that is Alaska.
Don't expect them to wait until the US army is weak, either. I've heard about secret plans to make it happen much sooner than you think.

 

Now that's funny. Keep 'em coming.

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1 minute ago, Sannerl said:

 

Now that's funny. Keep 'em coming.

 

Exactly. I've never heard a single Russian even say the word Alaska. Why on earth would they give a fuck about it?

 

In yorkeau's head though, literally anything is possible.

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22 minutes ago, AlexTr said:

Even the Russian government is not stupid and arrogant enough to try to invade the US anywhere. Fuck. Have you met many of us? We Americans are a scary bunch of crazies looking for a cause behind which to unite. Errrbody be running their asses to Anchorage if this even looked like it would happen.

 

I'd also imagine the US isn't stupid and arrogant enough to invade Russia. Thankfully.

 

22 minutes ago, AlexTr said:

That's just some dumbass shit there. Fucking Russia coming up to Alaska! Hysterical. 

 

Welcome to the world of yorkeau.

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