Johnson and Johnson now 3rd shot required

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8 minutes ago, Eric7 said:

 

Erm, does vaccination increase the risk of myocarditis or reduce it?

The mRNA vaccines do come with a risk of myocarditis, but so does covid (and that risk is much higher). If I had suffered  myocarditis after the first vaccination I'd probably go for a vector vaccine for the second.

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@kiplette I hate to state what is for most of us obvious, but not everything that has been said on TT by the anti-vaxx side has been true. There is little reason to think that this has suddenly changed.

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33 minutes ago, Eric7 said:

 

Erm, does vaccination increase the risk of myocarditis or reduce it?

 

Peed in my pants a little laughing while reading this.

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15 minutes ago, fraufruit said:

 

Peed in my pants a little laughing while reading this.

 

Just like every time I read about "Himself" :lol:

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1 hour ago, fraufruit said:

 

Peed in my pants a little laughing while reading this.

 

It's an easily answerable question.

 

As stated in the cited data from my previous post, 

Covid-19 vaccinatIons cause about 10 cases of myocarditis per 100,000.

 

As shown here regular old viral myocarditis occurs in between 10 and 20 cases per 100,000.

 

So, it does not appear to increase the risk of myocarditis in the general population, but rather tracks right at the low end of the risk for the same population. 

 

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11 minutes ago, AlexTr said:

So, it does not appear to increase the risk of myocarditis in the general population, but rather tracks right at the low end of the risk for the same population. 

 

 

If it's tracking to the low end, then that would suggest vaccination is (slightly) reducing the risk of myocarditis.
Great news if true.

I still won't be encouraging my 18 year old lad to take it yet though, further studies required.

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1 hour ago, fraufruit said:

 

Peed in my pants a little laughing while reading this.

 

Btw, don't worry too much about this, I've heard it's normal when you achieve a "certain vintage".

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12 minutes ago, Eric7 said:

I still won't be encouraging my 18 year old lad to take it yet though,

 

Your 18 year old is an adult and can take it if he wants without your encouragement/permission. Maybe he already has.

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12 minutes ago, fraufruit said:

 

Your 18 year old is an adult and can take it if he wants without your encouragement/permission. Maybe he already has.


I'm fully aware he doesn't need my permission but thankfully he's looked into it himself and decided it's not for him at this moment in time.
I'm very proud of him actually, standing up for what he believes in. It would be very easy to just give in so he can go to certain places with his mates.

 

And unless he has a 2nd Impfausweis, I know he hasn't done it yet.

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1 hour ago, Eric7 said:

 

Btw, don't worry too much about this, I've heard it's normal when you achieve a "certain vintage".

Lol at the fact it took you an hour to come up with this hilarity.

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20 minutes ago, murphaph said:

Lol at the fact it took you an hour to come up with this hilarity.

 

It wasn't supposed to be funny. :huh:

 

And I was at the shops :lol:

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1 hour ago, El Jeffo said:

Don't worry, we're laughing at you, not with you.

 

Oh noes... woe is me :(

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On 1/20/2022, 1:40:17, AlexTr said:


As someone with regular monitoring by a cardiologist since birth, who is prone to myocarditis due to congenital defect, my cardiologist told me exactly which booster to take and I did. Everything is fine here.

May I ask which booster was recommended for people at risk for myocarditis?

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58 minutes ago, Metall said:

May I ask which booster was recommended for people at risk for myocarditis?

The risk seems to be highest for Moderna, lower for Biontech and least for the vector vaccines.

Edit: actually, that´s not quite correct as the risk highest for the infection.

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2 hours ago, Metall said:

May I ask which booster was recommended for people at risk for myocarditis?

 

She absolutely swore me off AZ and Moderna, so I took Biontech

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5 hours ago, jeba said:

The risk seems to be highest for Moderna, lower for Biontech and least for the vector vaccines.

Edit: actually, that´s not quite correct as the risk highest for the infection.

 

4 hours ago, AlexTr said:

 

She absolutely swore me off AZ and Moderna, so I took Biontech

 

As I understand it the AZ and the other vector vaccines are not an option for the booster it must be an mRNA one.

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3 hours ago, keith2011 said:

As I understand it the AZ and the other vector vaccines are not an option for the booster it must be an mRNA one.

I doubt that the reason is the risk of myocarditis, but rather other factors like lower efficacy and the fact that the protection offered is waning more rapidly. If I had developed myocarditis after the first jab, I´d probably rather have accepted that downside and tried to compensate for it with a second booster after say 3 or 4 months (depending on my antibody titre, which you can check for €15 - € 25). But that´s just me.

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