Only in America

[snowingagain 5,202]

4 minutes ago, HH_Sailor said:

Did they also review the current dress code for male legislators?

No, of course not.

I think men are already required to wear shirt, tie and jacket.    And presumably trousies.

[fraufruit 41,951]

Seems like long sleeves or a jumper would suffice.

 

Have those ignorant men never heard of hot flashes? It's a female thing.

[snowingagain 5,202]

1 hour ago, fraufruit said:

Seems like long sleeves or a jumper would suffice.  Have those ignorant men never heard of hot flashes? It's a female thing.

Sure, I get that.   I found the Guardian article annoying (writer has form).   And it was a woman who introduced the amendment in Missouri.  What a waste of time.

[CincyInDE 3,240]

[fraufruit 41,951]

A gunman fired shots at police as he weaved through the aisles of an Indiana Walmart before being killed by law enforcement, authorities said.

At least one person in the store was wounded Thursday night by the shooter, who was not immediately identified, Evansville Police Department Sgt. Anna Gray told WFIE-TV. The victim was transported to a hospital and the severity of their injuries was not immediately known. No officers were injured, Gray said.

[keith2011 2,579]

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Ten killed in shooting near LA after Lunar New Year event

And 10 others at least have been injured - some of those are in critical condition, police say

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-us-canada-64365251

[keith2011 2,579]

Anyone know what is going on with California's Chinese American community?

 

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Half Moon Bay: Seven dead in another California mass shooting

The attacks took place in the coastal city of Half Moon Bay. The victims were all Chinese-American farm workers.

Suspect Zhao Chunli, 67, was arrested after driving to a police station.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-64382598

 

 

 

[fraufruit 41,951]

Let's see. I think there have been over 35 mass murders in the U.S. so far this year. That's 24 days. There have been 3 in California in 8 days. 

 

Large Chinese American population in CA.

 

Maybe just the odds.

[Wulfrun 23,045]

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-64377360

California has woken up to news of three mass shootings this week. On Monday, a gunman opened fire at two plant nurseries in Half Moon Bay, killing seven and injuring one person.

 

A few hours later, another gunman opened fire 41 miles (65km) away at a petrol station in Oakland, injuring seven and killing one person.

 

Then on Saturday, 11 people who had gathered to dance died on the eve of Lunar New Year in Monterey Park near Los Angeles.

 

If it feels like these incidents are becoming more frequent in the US, that is because they are.

 

Different definitions exist for what constitutes a mass shooting, but non-profit the Gun Violence Archive - which counts shootings where four or more people are killed or injured, excluding the gunman - has tracked 40 such incidents in the US since the start of the year.

 

It is the highest number of mass shootings on record for any January, according to the organisation that publicly tracks gun-related deaths and injuries in the US.

 

The previous record was set last year at 34. Between 2014 and 2022, there was an average of 25 mass shootings recorded in the month of January.

[tor 16,892]

[Chelski 1,440]

It's disturbing viewing.

 

Full video: Multiple camera angles capture fatal Memphis police beating of Tyre Nichols.

 

(I think you all qualify for the above)

 

Without opening a can of worms, I find it difficult to understand why anyone would not comply with a routine traffic stop if they had nothing to hide? Simply hand over your documents, get checked out, and drive home. Alive.

 

Why then resist arrest against five Police officers, run away, and escalate the situation? Death.

 

Again, I'm not condoning the brutality of the MPD, but I am perplexed by the initial reaction of Tyre Nichols to a routine traffic stop. 

[john g. 37,687]

Not only in America. It happens across the world every day. All I eant to say is I admire this graciois mother.

[fraufruit 41,951]

On 28/01/2023, 16:46:15, Chelski said:

Why then resist arrest against five Police officers, run away, and escalate the situation?

 

From what I've read (and I don't care to watch the video), he ran for his life. They pulled him out of the car and started beating him for no reason. Fight or flight instinct kicked in.

 

Does the video show a different scenario?

[LeonG 14,797]

2 hours ago, fraufruit said:

 

From what I've read (and I don't care to watch the video), he ran for his life. They pulled him out of the car and started beating him for no reason. Fight or flight instinct kicked in.

 

Does the video show a different scenario?

 

The cops seem overly aggressive from the get go. Drag him out of the car. Yelling at him to lay on the ground while kind of preventing him from complying the way the are holding onto him. They taze him, then  pepperspray him and themselves and then he flees. He probably thought they were going to kill him anyway. Apparently these cops had already hat complaints made against them for brutality.

[yesterday 1,979]

13 hours ago, fraufruit said:

 

From what I've read (and I don't care to watch the video), he ran for his life. They pulled him out of the car and started beating him for no reason. Fight or flight instinct kicked in.

 

Does the video show a different scenario?

 

The video is upsetting

 

Yes the video shows, he did nothing to provoke  the situation.

 

I do not understand why the police are only being done on Murder 2, clearly they had the intention to kill him right from the start. These police guys should be done for Murder 1.

 

I know this is a case of bad apples and most police guys are good, but what has happened really shocked me.

 

 

[JG52 1,019]

1 hour ago, yesterday said:

I do not understand why the police are only being done on Murder 2, clearly they had the intention to kill him right from the start. These police guys should be done for Murder 1.

 

Either you are joking or you have no idea of what first degree murder really is. 

[fraufruit 41,951]

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  It is important to note that the exact definition of first-degree murder depends on each state’s statute, and its definition will vary by jurisdiction. Most jurisdictions define first-degree murder as cases involving premeditation and deliberation; all other intentional murders are defined as second-degree.

   

[BethAnnBitt 2,906]

1 hour ago, yesterday said:

I know this is a case of bad apples and most police guys are good, but what has happened really shocked me.

Personally, I can’t bear to watch the video.  The whole situation is just sickening.

 

The cops were part of a specialized crime unit, since disbanded, and these are prone to developing an aggressive culture and an “us vs them” mentality.

https://www.npr.org/2023/01/28/1152319138/tyre-nichols-arrest-what-went-wrong-policing-experts

 

IMO these officers were on the hunt, the victim was terrified, and things spiraled out of control quickly.  He was given 71 commands to follow, within a 13 minute period, while being brutally attacked.  They could have easily handcuffed him. 

https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-news/tyre-nichols-video-analysis-impossible-police-commands-1234670670/

[yesterday 1,979]

from https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/first_degree_murder#:~:text=First%20degree%20murder%20is%20the,to%20kill%20and%20felony%20murder.

 

There are several factors indicating premeditation and deliberation. These include:

 

lack of provocation from the victim, Look at the video, the victim did not ask for this

actions and words of the defendant before and after the killing, I did not hear any bad words

 

any threats from the defendant before and/or during the killing, Positive point for the police hear !

 

whether the victim and the defendant had a poor history, do not know, but I guess not

 

whether there was an additional lethal attack after the victim was already helpless, evidence of brutality, This was clearly a brutle attack

and the nature and number of wounds. The victim died from the attacks

 

However, many jurisdictions concede that there is no bright, arbitrary line when premeditation begins and ends.

 

Looking at the video, when you inflict, such damage on another person, the intend can be assumed, the intention was to kill that person, you do not beat a person to that level not intending to kill them

 

[JG52 1,019]

5 minutes ago, yesterday said:

Looking at the video, when you inflict, such damage on another person, the intend can be assumed, the intention was to kill that person, you do not beat a person to that level not intending to kill them

 

If you say so.  I will set aside my decade of active law enforcement experience in favor of your armchair quarterbacking.