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Yes, Republicans really did try to make abortion punishable by death

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Is it legal to kill someone who is about to have an abortion? I know that sounds like a ridiculous question, but some people on the far right would like it to be. Social media was recently awash with outrage over a bill introduced by North Carolina state legislators that would legalize violence against anyone undergoing or performing an abortion. 

 

North Carolina House Bill (HB) 158, sponsored by a Republican state representative, Larry Pittman, proposed that abortion be considered first-degree murder and would have allowed civilians to use deadly force to prevent someone from ending a pregnancy.

 

Now I fully realise after reading the complete article that this never went anywhere.

But what sort of politicians are out there saying stuff like this out loud??

 

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PS - well done to Kansas voters!

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Thx @HH_Sailor!  We KS voters who pushed this one through didn't expect the margin we got!  Lots of celebrating today.  🥳  Our message was clear. 

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18 hours ago, HH_Sailor said:

But what sort of politicians are out there saying stuff like this out loud??

 

Extreme right Christian ones.

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:lol:  In all seriousness, let’s hope they found a smoking gun or two, or this will come back to bite us.  🙏  He is still so dangerous.

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1 hour ago, john g. said:

“He shot my arm off ".

Oh dear.

In other countries the owner would be arrested. 

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True. I also hope in other countries arseholes don't wander around with shooters. No sympathy for the perp here. 

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13 hours ago, LukeSkywalker said:

In other countries the owner would be arrested.

 

What does one do in other countries when someone is pointing an assault weapon at you?

 

Actually, that would be a war situation in other countries.

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13 hours ago, LukeSkywalker said:

In other countries the owner would be arrested. 

 

Swings and roundabouts

Other countries don't insist that criminals should have the right to have easy access to guns so this is much less likely to be an  issue.

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Some years ago, a jewellery store in the Netherlands was robbed by two men. The owner had a gun against his head. Then, the wife of the owner stormed into the store with a gun and there were several shots. Both robbers died. The owner was shot in his hand. At the end they were prosecuted for illegal possession of a weapon. 
 

Another jeweller was held a Kalashnikov against his head. He shot one of the two robbers in the back when they fled on a motorcycle. The robber died. The other one was caught and went to prison. The jeweller was not prosecuted, but these are exceptions. 

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No matter how steep, flat, or skewed the bell curve for armed response outcomes is, there will always be outliers at the extremes.  In these situations, decisions are made quickly based on the information available at the time.  Factors that affect the decision include prior experience, training, avenues of retreat (a good option if available), potential threat to others, and so on.  Ultimately, it's up to those engaged in the event at the time it is occurring who decide on the immediate outcome.

 

Second-guessing and exploring "what if" scenarios after the potential life-threatening event is easy and is how some attorneys earn their money.  Exploring options is more time sensitive when looking down the barrel of a weapon.

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