Scary letter from Staatsanwaltschaft

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The phrasing, if it is really written that way, is indeed weird for a German legal institution. Please take @El Jeffo up on the offer. 

There is a whole lot of info missing, first and foremost what the Strafbefehl was issued for. 

However if it is legit and you want to contest it, it is not enough to tell them that on the phone. You probably need to put it into writing in proper form and with the correct phrasing. Hence the lawyer. 

Also: Did your e-mail to various lawyers include something which might be understood as an order / a release to take action? Then you might want to write those that have not answered quickly to let them know you no longer need assistance to make sure they don't send you a bill at a later date. 

  

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20 hours ago, maxie said:

The phrasing, if it is really written that way, is indeed weird for a German legal institution. Please take @El Jeffo up on the offer. 

There is a whole lot of info missing, first and foremost what the Strafbefehl was issued for. 

However if it is legit and you want to contest it, it is not enough to tell them that on the phone. You probably need to put it into writing in proper form and with the correct phrasing. Hence the lawyer. 

Also: Did your e-mail to various lawyers include something which might be understood as an order / a release to take action? Then you might want to write those that have not answered quickly to let them know you no longer need assistance to make sure they don't send you a bill at a later date. 

  

the strafbehel was issued for a penalty order from 2019 that they didnt even notify me of until 2021. this is unfortunately legit. 

 

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I've taught for a number of law firms here in Berlin and can assure you that these two will be able to provide English-speaking lawyers specialising in labour law:

https://www.dka-kanzlei.de/arbeitsrecht.html (Prenzlauer Berg)

https://grawert.berlin/arbeitsrecht/ (Hackescher Markt)

IHO, an initial consultation fee is worth far more than the €3500 being demanded of you, not to mention the peace of mind.

Act NOW and good luck.

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Fascinating update after speaking with a lawyer... it turns out even though its easy to prove a) they never notified me because they sent it to an outdated address I wasnt registered at, b ) the supposed fraud is also easy to prove never happened because my employer can verify it and now even the arbeitsamt agrees, that doesnt change anything

 

so to summarize, in a "free society"

you can be accused of a crime you did not commit at any time

they can charge you with the crime without notifying you, and without the right to appeal or a fair trial 

 

HOW IS THIS POSSIBLE

 

I think I've just lost my right to permanent residence over this since the auslanderbehorde website says you cant get it if you have a fine (mine was for 70 days, if that makes a difference)???

 

I'm completely overwhelmed that my life has been effectively ended because of a fucking PAPERWORK error 

 

I cant go back to my home country either... so when I say life is over... I mean booted from germany and literally my life is over, literally

 

 

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On 26/11/2021, 14:28:04, skinnypuppy said:

I've taught for a number of law firms here in Berlin and can assure you that these two will be able to provide English-speaking lawyers specialising in labour law:

https://www.dka-kanzlei.de/arbeitsrecht.html (Prenzlauer Berg)

https://grawert.berlin/arbeitsrecht/ (Hackescher Markt)

IHO, an initial consultation fee is worth far more than the €3500 being demanded of you, not to mention the peace of mind.

Act NOW and good luck.

 

turns out the lawyer was useless

 

this also isnt labor law, but criminal law, and unfortunately with migration law implications

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1 hour ago, ExPattheDog said:

I think I've just lost my right to permanent residence over this since the auslanderbehorde website says you cant get it if you have a fine (mine was for 70 days, if that makes a difference)???

Calm down, anything up to 90 Tagessätze is not a problem: https://migrando.de/erhalte-ich-trotz-vorstrafe-die-niederlassungserlaubnis/

 

1 hour ago, ExPattheDog said:

this also isnt labor law, but criminal law, and unfortunately with migration law implications

Contact this lawyer, he is a "Fachanwalt für Strafrecht" (= specialised in criminal law), knows English and that rarest of things in this specialisation, he is honest: https://www.strafverteidiger-muenchen.info/anwaelte-dms-muenchen/rechtsanwalt-schuetrumpf.html

 

Dr. Matthias Schütrumpf
Fachanwalt für Strafrecht

DMS Rechtsanwälte
Finkenstr. 5 / III
80333 München

Tel.:    +49 (0)89 28 20 14

E-Mail:    muenchen@dms-strafrecht.de
 

He will get it resolved, righting miscarriages of justice is a "thing" with him.

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Has the OP actually had any direct contact with the staatsanswaltschaft since receiving the letters ? Has it been established that it is not a scam ? Starting to feel like this is a wind up.

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24 minutes ago, optimista said:

Has the OP actually had any direct contact with the staatsanswaltschaft since receiving the letters ? Has it been established that it is not a scam ? Starting to feel like this is a wind up.

 

I've written them letters to their confirmed address and got letters back - it is unfortunately very real

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1 hour ago, PandaMunich said:

Calm down, anything up to 90 Tagessätze is not a problem: https://migrando.de/erhalte-ich-trotz-vorstrafe-die-niederlassungserlaubnis/

 

Contact this lawyer, he is a "Fachanwalt für Strafrecht" (= specialised in criminal law), knows English and that rarest of things in this specialisation, he is honest: https://www.strafverteidiger-muenchen.info/anwaelte-dms-muenchen/rechtsanwalt-schuetrumpf.html

 

Dr. Matthias Schütrumpf
Fachanwalt für Strafrecht

DMS Rechtsanwälte
Finkenstr. 5 / III
80333 München

Tel.:    +49 (0)89 28 20 14

E-Mail:    muenchen@dms-strafrecht.de
 

He will get it resolved, righting miscarriages of justice is a "thing" with him.

 

THANK YOU I will reach out now <3

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