3G in Restaurants?

[jubinjohn 242]

24 minutes ago, AlexTr said:

 

 

Are you with that friend now?

Of course yes. How else do you expect all these sensitive information exchanges happen?.

[Elljay 527]

I'm still trying to get my head round this: how to increase death

 

" it's just that it increases other illnesses (including death) to a greater extent." From @Eric7. 

[AlexTr 19,754]

@Elljay If your IQ is above room temperature (Fahrenheit) you will not understand that.

[Jonny 1,325]

8 hours ago, El Jeffo said:

 

You can't. Like their sister organization in the U.S., the Front Line Covid-19 Care Alliance, they're an anti-vax, anti-science site disguised as Covid information. They recommend zinc, vitamins C and D, horse paste

Referring to ivermectin as 'horse paste' says a lot about your intellect.  

[Jonny 1,325]

8 hours ago, El Jeffo said:

And then they wash their hands of all potential damage with this disclaimer:

Are you talking about the vaccine companies here ? 

[Janx Spirit 11,331]

Happy New Year and a bloody good one 🎉
and a quick cheers to Darwin 🍻

[Elljay 527]

@AlexTrBeing Swedish I go with my compatriot, Celsius' scale; I think I'm at least boiling.

[john_b 3,387]

33 minutes ago, Jonny said:

Referring to ivermectin as 'horse paste' says a lot about your intellect.  

 

Horse dewormer.  

 

No doubts whatsoever as to your intellect! 

[Chelski 1,481]

Hope nobody gets one:

 

 

Happy New Year to one and all!

 

Yes, even you.

[Jonny 1,325]

1 hour ago, john_b said:

 

Horse dewormer.  

 

No doubts whatsoever as to your intellect! 

Another one ? Have you ever wondered why one of the most widely used and safest drugs all of a sudden becomes so dangerous that it needs to be banned/restricted ? Strange, isn't it ?

[AlexTr 19,754]

Do you ever wonder how adults who are supposed to function in the adult world don't understand the use cases regarded acceptable for the off-label use of drugs?

 

I don't. I have encountered a lot of stupid bastards in my life. We all sit with the scientific knowledge of the world at our fingertips and some people watch videos by Joe Rando and his team of imbeciles and think they know things.

 

Stop being fucking stupid.

[Keleth 9,321]

4 hours ago, Jonny said:

Another one ? Have you ever wondered why one of the most widely used and safest drugs all of a sudden becomes so dangerous that it needs to be banned/restricted ? Strange, isn't it ?

Aspirin is one of the most used and safest drugs about but you don´t use it to treat a fucking stomach ulcer do you.

[jeba 4,364]

6 minutes ago, Keleth said:

Aspirin is one of the most used and safest drugs about but you don´t use it to treat a fucking stomach ulcer do you.

Aspirin  is by no means one of the safest drugs. I don´t understand why you can buy it without prescription. The first patient I saw dying in an ICU was dying from a peritonitis caused by taking a combination of aspirin and cortisone (both are prone to cause intestinal ulcerations).

[Keleth 9,321]

1 hour ago, jeba said:

Aspirin  is by no means one of the safest drugs. I don´t understand why you can buy it without prescription. The first patient I saw dying in an ICU was dying from a peritonitis caused by taking a combination of aspirin and cortisone (both are prone to cause intestinal ulcerations).

And don´t they advise you not to take the drugs together?

Which is why the post I quoted is bollocks because a drug is safe (well no drug is truly safe) to take when taken as intended.

[jeba 4,364]

2 hours ago, Keleth said:

And don´t they advise you not to take the drugs together?

They just write in the package insert that there is a risk of gastrointestinal ulcerations and that there are interactions with glucocorticoids (among others). Which is correct. The risk is existing even if you only take aspirin (obviously increasing as dosage and duration of intake are increased). Just like with vaccines, sometimes you have to accept certain risks because they are the lesser evil. It´s just one of my pet peeves that laymen often seem to think it´s sort of a candy.

[cacilia_1 80]

Did you ever wonder why things in Germany went south so fast in the '30s and '40s?  Just look around you. It was science back then also that proved Germans were superior and other races were dangerous to them. Crazy to watch it happen all over again but this time worldwide. People want to believe in something, even it is just to make them feel morally superior to other people.  The crazy things you people say to each other; the hate continues to rise.

[AlexTr 19,754]

15 minutes ago, cacilia_1 said:

Did you ever wonder why things in Germany went south so fast in the '30s and '40s?  Just look around you. It was science back then also that proved Germans were superior and other races were dangerous to them. Crazy to watch it happen all over again but this time worldwide. People want to believe in something, even it is just to make them feel morally superior to other people.  The crazy things you people say to each other; the hate continues to rise.

 

No, it was the same level of pseudo-science that the Querdenkers are employing that was used to "prove" that. Thanks for speaking up. Everyone needs to know that this pseudoscience is a component of fascism.

 

ETA: Since some people have the entire knowledge of the world at their fingertips, but still can't summon the intellectual wherewithal to educate themselves. First, the Nazis invented a race that does not exist: https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/article/aryan-1

 

Then, they enlisted scientists who agreed with their politics to find proof to support their theories: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1084095/

 

And anyone applauding that dross you posted is like the nice Germans who didn't want to upset people and let it happen.

[Keleth 9,321]

14 minutes ago, cacilia_1 said:

Did you ever wonder why things in Germany went south so fast in the '30s and '40s?  Just look around you. It was science back then also that proved Germans were superior and other races were dangerous to them. Crazy to watch it happen all over again but this time worldwide. People want to believe in something, even it is just to make them feel morally superior to other people.  The crazy things you people say to each other; the hate continues to rise.

You have obviously never in your life studied history.There are many varied reasons why Germany went mad in the after the 1st World War but scientists aren´t one of them.

 

 

[Eric7 555]

16 hours ago, AlexTr said:

 

From your pdf.

 

 

 

Please explain how that matches your post that said

 

 

The study you cite simply does not say anything near what you originally said. Not. A. Fucking. Thing.

 

Pro-tip: Read first, spout later.

 

You are a momser and a patzer.

 

And you are reading what you want to read, focussing on the effect of the drug on Covid infections but ignoring the overall effect on health.
As I stated in my earlier post: "Incidentally, the reports do show that the Pfizer vaccine does indeed reduces infection, it's just that it increases other illnesses (including death) to a greater extent."
Don't just read the abstract, read the actual numbers which detail the other illnesses the trial subjects experienced.
Even the efficacy in the study is misrepresented. The actual risk reduction was reduced from 0.88% in the placebo group to 0.04% in the vaccine group, a relative risk reduction of 95% but it was presented as reducing the chance of catching Covid from 100% down to 5%. The risk of catching Covid was already less than 1% for the placebo group.

[Eric7 555]

14 hours ago, Elljay said:

I'm still trying to get my head round this: how to increase death

 

" it's just that it increases other illnesses (including death) to a greater extent." From @Eric7. 

 

Sorry, I meant increase cases of other illnesses, including death.

From the trial - 20 deaths in the vaccine group, 14 in the placebo group.