Posted 13 Oct 2022 11 hours ago, bramble said: Winter is coming and that's why (at my age) I got my 5th jab last month in preparation. Besides, I'm exposed 4 times a week to schoolkids, who come to my place for Nachhilfe, where I insist they and I wear masks indoors. All four have had Corona - two of them twice. So it's only logical that I'm careful. I still wear a mask when shopping, although most people I see (also oldies) don't seem to bother anymore. I haven't caught Corona so far and also haven't suffered any side effects of the vaccine. You evil freak making kids wears masks! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 13 Oct 2022 11 hours ago, bramble said: Winter is coming and that's why (at my age) I got my 5th jab last month in preparation. Besides, I'm exposed 4 times a week to schoolkids, who come to my place for Nachhilfe, where I insist they and I wear masks indoors. All four have had Corona - two of them twice. So it's only logical that I'm careful. I still wear a mask when shopping, although most people I see (also oldies) don't seem to bother anymore. I haven't caught Corona so far and also haven't suffered any side effects of the vaccine. You evil freak making kids wears masks! maybe limit your contact to other people if you are so scared! was that not the original narrative? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 13 Oct 2022 8 minutes ago, paulyg said: You evil freak making kids wears masks! maybe limit your contact to other people if you are so scared! was that not the original narrative? Come on don't be ridiculous, over 12 year old school kids still have to wear masks on public transport like the rest of us and it was not that long ago they had to wear them at school too! What is your problem? 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 14 Oct 2022 Ok, fair enough. Your body, your choice and my body, my choice. I choose to stay unvaxxed. But never forget the coercision and pressure from these shitty people and society. They knew from Israel reports that the jabs didn't stop transmission. BEFORE they introduced there mandates. This runs deeper than those who lost their jobs, but the entire state of your country today. People lost businesses and life's savings with them, they didn't get to see their babies born or their loved ones die. People were made to be alone at a time they should be with their family and most people can't even get a doctor's appointment now, even those who have been diagnosed with cancer since the lockdown. They have wilfully flat-lined our economy, cost of living is through the roof. The Great Reset Never forget this, people. Israel says Pfizer Covid vaccine is just 39% effective as delta spreads, but still prevents severe illness At the end you will get a jab for a 99.6% survival rate virus, and that jab is only 39% efficacy. Good luck to you, I will take my chances against the virus, if I will get it again. i know already how I can beat it and I am not afraid. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 14 Oct 2022 6 hours ago, paulyg said: You evil freak making kids wears masks! maybe limit your contact to other people if you are so scared! was that not the original narrative? You seem to be scared of wearing a mask. Wearing a mask isn't going to kill you. Noone is forced - the kids can either wear a mask indoors or stay away. The parents are aware of my conditions and are grateful for my supervision of their children's schoolwork. 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 14 Oct 2022 3 hours ago, Mr.Bear said: Ok, fair enough. Your body, your choice and my body, my choice. I choose to stay unvaxxed. NO it is NOT fair enough! By making that anti-social choice you endanger the rest of us so it is not at all unreasonable that you should be isolated in an attempt to persuade you to take on your social responsibilities. That principal is regardless of the disease or vaccine and your attempts to malign a specific covid vaccine has no impact on that basic principal! 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 14 Oct 2022 10 minutes ago, keith2011 said: By making that anti-social choice you endanger the rest of us so it is not at all unreasonable that you should be isolated in an attempt to persuade you to take on your social responsibilities. The same argument could be made for climate change I think. Someone emits too much CO2 by taking the plane, or eating avocados or beef, or whatever, so they are a bad person who is endangering the rest of us and must be punished until they conform. Something like this is coming it seems. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 14 Oct 2022 5 minutes ago, vulturesquadron said: The same argument could be made for climate change I think. No it can't, eating an avocado will not infect someone with a disease! 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 14 Oct 2022 15 minutes ago, keith2011 said: No it can't, eating an avocado will not infect someone with a disease! Avocados are apparently associated with high emissions compared to other foods. The scientific consensus is climate change is caused by humans and will cause millions, or billions, of people to die. So in order to prevent that, people need to be made to change their attitude and behaviour. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 14 Oct 2022 2 minutes ago, vulturesquadron said: Avocados are apparently associated with high emissions compared to other foods. The scientific consensus is climate change is caused by humans and will cause millions, or billions, of people to die. So in order to prevent that, people need to be made to change their attitude and behaviour. IIRC rice is the major offender after beef and I see no one saying we should stop eating rice. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 14 Oct 2022 6 minutes ago, vulturesquadron said: Avocados are apparently associated with high emissions compared to other foods. Do they directly infect people with a disease??? No, then stop trying to divert the subject away from people who do! 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 14 Oct 2022 4 minutes ago, Krieg said: IIRC rice is the major offender after beef and I see no one saying we should stop eating rice. As we see from Covid, the rules/guidance is made up as we go along and is not consistent. The situation is similar with climate change. Emissions in Western manufacturing are bad, so move production to Asia… where they have fewer environmental regulations. Doesn’t make sense, does it? Prince Charles can fly around on his private jet, but still lecture people on the environment, etc. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 14 Oct 2022 20 minutes ago, vulturesquadron said: ... will cause millions, or billions of people to die. Our invasive species is destroying the planet and is unsustainable. Surely this would be a good thing seen from a wider perspective rather than the near view of 'OMG please, not my grandma'. Quote Bug Corona tried. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 14 Oct 2022 9 minutes ago, vulturesquadron said: As we see from Covid, the rules/guidance is made up as we go along and is not consistent. The situation is similar with climate change. No it is not. Next thing you will be having us all eating insects! 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 14 Oct 2022 9 minutes ago, keith2011 said: Do they directly infect people with a disease??? No, then stop trying to divert the subject away from people who do! I’m not sure what you mean? I thought you agreed that vaccinated also spread the virus? So who am I diverting attention from? 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 14 Oct 2022 19 minutes ago, vulturesquadron said: I’m not sure what you mean? I thought you agreed that vaccinated also spread the virus? So who am I diverting attention from? Anti-vaxxers not avocados! 1 hour ago, keith2011 said: NO it is NOT fair enough! By making that anti-social choice you endanger the rest of us so it is not at all unreasonable that you should be isolated in an attempt to persuade you to take on your social responsibilities. That principal is regardless of the disease or vaccine and your attempts to malign a specific covid vaccine has no impact on that basic principal! 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 14 Oct 2022 1 hour ago, keith2011 said: NO it is NOT fair enough! By making that anti-social choice you endanger the rest of us so it is not at all unreasonable that you should be isolated in an attempt to persuade you to take on your social responsibilities. That principal is regardless of the disease or vaccine and your attempts to malign a specific covid vaccine has no impact on that basic principal! Have you seen the latest news on Pfizer? Where they admitted their vaccine was not tested in regards to transmitting covid ? We all know the vaxxed still get Covid, still transmit it and still end up in hospital. So if someone doesn't want the vaxx what's it to you ? We now know they're not causing you any more harm than someone who took it. Please shake off this insane belief that someone who isn't vaxxed is a danger to you. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 14 Oct 2022 3 minutes ago, Jonny said: Please shake off this insane belief that someone who isn't vaxxed is a danger to you. Since you clearly failed to understand my post try reading it again! Hint "principal" not covid specific! 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 14 Oct 2022 21 hours ago, keith2011 said: Although I greatly detest the anti-vaxx doubt and fear propaganda and those who spread it there is little doubt that the vaccines have not been a success, we all know either from personal experience or those of our friends and relatives that they have clearly not immunised us against the most recent more infectious variants ... 37 minutes ago, Jonny said: We all know the vaxxed still get Covid, still transmit it and still end up in hospital. So if someone doesn't want the vaxx what's it to you ? We now know they're not causing you any more harm than someone who took it. Please shake off this insane belief that someone who isn't vaxxed is a danger to you. I've no idea what Keith2011 is arguing about anymore. Do I see a nail in the coffin of the immortal 3G thread? Fingers crossed... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 14 Oct 2022 15 minutes ago, toBnruG said: I've no idea what Keith2011 is arguing about anymore. Do I see a nail in the coffin of the immortal 3G thread? Fingers crossed... Sorry you are not getting it but anti-vax goes way beyond covid the vaccines against it. Consider Polio, Smallpox and Measles etc. there are loads of people out there who think they have the" my body my right" to refuse any vaccination! 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites