Posted 28 Mar 2022 Quote The fourth coronavirus vaccine resulted in a 78% decrease in COVID-19 related deaths in adults aged 60-100, according to a new study by Clalit Health Services. The study, conducted by Clalit, Sapir College and Ben-Gurion University of the Negev, examined the effect the second booster shot had on mortality rates of the population eligible to receive it in Israel. The research was led by Dr. Ronen Arbel, a health outcomes researcher at Clalit Health Services and Sapir College. The paper is currently awaiting peer review. https://www.jpost.com/health-and-wellness/coronavirus/article-702441 The fourth vaccine initially offered only to 60+, works. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 28 Mar 2022 5 hours ago, yourkeau said: https://www.jpost.com/health-and-wellness/coronavirus/article-702441 The fourth vaccine initially offered only to 60+, works. Nice article. Comments are funny though. Looks like nobody really believes it. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 28 Mar 2022 I never read the comment section there. It's full of Jonnies and Mr. HIVs mostly. Most comment sections of all media are full of nutjobs, no sense to read them. That kind of people who "never read the mainstream media". The irony. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 28 Mar 2022 37 minutes ago, yourkeau said: I never read the comment section there. It's full of Jonnies and Mr. HIVs mostly. Most comment sections of all media are full of nutjobs, no sense to read them. That kind of people who "never read the mainstream media". The irony. Comments can be quite useful to see what people think. Given that I cannot find a positive comment to that article you posted, it seems that JP readers are finally waking up. And ask yourself why people are deserting the corporate media in droves. I wonder why ??? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 28 Mar 2022 2 hours ago, yourkeau said: I never read the comment section there. It's full of Jonnies and Mr. HIVs mostly. Most comment sections of all media are full of nutjobs, no sense to read them. That kind of people who "never read the mainstream media". The irony. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 28 Mar 2022 1 hour ago, El Jeffo said: That's right. You dare not enter into the comments section. You might just see opinions and comments you don't agree with. Heaven forbid. Better stick to legacy media like The Guardian. They don't allow comments on most of their stories. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 28 Mar 2022 27 minutes ago, Jonny said: You might just see opinions and comments you don't agree with. Heaven forbid. Never ever believe what you read on a comments section whether it has the viewpoint you agree with or not. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 28 Mar 2022 Yellow Card, UK. 2 Feel free to check it up and wake the fuck up. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 28 Mar 2022 NOVEL CORONAVIRUS VACCINE DATED JULY 2019?? Making a vaccine 6 months before the Pathogen appeared? Video here Above is a short clip of a promo video made by NIH Jan 2020 the following screengrabs show the date of 7/23/2019 on this box of “2019 Novel Coronavirus vaccine” 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 28 Mar 2022 " A report of a suspected ADR to the Yellow Card scheme does not necessarily mean that it was caused by the vaccine, only that the reporter has a suspicion it may have been" https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/coronavirus-covid-19-vaccine-adverse-reactions/coronavirus-vaccine-summary-of-yellow-card-reporting#yellow-card-reports 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 28 Mar 2022 I don't look at videos, is this the doctored box in the link? https://www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-coronavirus-vaccine-idUSL1N2P50O0 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 28 Mar 2022 I did "check it up", and read the reports on the actual Yellow card page, not the "UK Freedom project "site. It's not just Winnie the Pooh who is a bear with very little brain. 7 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 28 Mar 2022 On 2022-03-27, 11:39:50, Mr.Bear said: "The vaccine prevents hospitalisation" is such a big lie that allopathic medicine may never ever recover. https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/ Compare the hospitalizations to the number of cases: In January 2021, as the vaccine was just beginning to roll out, there was a peak of about 50,000 cases per day, with about 4,000 being admitted to hospital. A proportion of 0.08. In January 2022, with a peak of about 200,000 cases, we should have seen 16,000 hospitalizations if the vaccine was a "big lie". Yet there were just over 2,000. A proportion of 0.01. A reduction of more than 85%. Part of that could be attributed to Omicron causing less severe disease, but in large part it's the vaccines. There are enough studies from reliable sources that show that, if you care to look. But Mr.Bore doesn't care. He's only interested in trolling and spreading disinformation. The "big lie" is the one he is telling. Vaccines are highly effective, generally safe, and greatly reduce the chances of serious disease, hospitalization, and death. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 28 Mar 2022 2 hours ago, Mr.Bear said: Yellow Card, UK. 2 Feel free to check it up and wake the fuck up. Feel free to check the following, and shut the fuck up. Seriously, if you are interested in participating in a reasoned discussion, that's fine. But if you're unable to string a rational argument together, and are here to do nothing but re-post a bunch of preposterous propaganda and crazed conspiracy theory... go get lost in the woods. Twisting the meaning of the adverse drug reaction reporting systems is the oldest and most tired "astonishing supressed truth" that addle-brained anti-vaxxers have been tossing around, long before COVID. We've seen this many times in this thread already. Yawn. From the actual coronavirus-yellowcard.mhra.gov.uk site, not the bogus "UK Freedom Project" that misrepresents it: Quote COVID-19 Vaccines Vaccines are the most effective way to prevent infectious diseases and they save millions of lives worldwide. Like all medicines, vaccines can cause side effects. Most of these are mild and short-term, and not everyone gets them. And Reuters' fact-check article about these false claims about vaccine safety, wilfully made by Mr.Bore and his ilk: Fact Check-Reports made to Britain’s Yellow Card scheme are not confirmed adverse reactions to coronavirus vaccines And many similar debunking articles: https://www.reuters.com/search/news?blob=fact+check+adverse+drug+reactions 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 28 Mar 2022 One more thing - the Yellow Card system is open to the public to make reports online. Anyone can just fill out the form on the website and report any adverse event. Your dog died? Spilled a glass of milk? You can report that as an adverse vaccine reaction, and it will be duly noted. Here is a detailed explanation by the UK government of how the Yellow Card system actually works: https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/coronavirus-covid-19-vaccine-adverse-reactions/coronavirus-vaccine-summary-of-yellow-card-reporting#yellow-card-reports 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 29 Mar 2022 6 hours ago, sumguy said: Your dog died? Spilled a glass of milk? The UK government admits that the vaccines affected the natural immune system of those who were double vaccinated. The UK government has admitted that once you have been double vaccinated, you will never again be able to acquire full natural immunity to Covid variants - or possibly any other virus. So let's see the 'real' pandemic begin! In the Week 42 "COVID-19 Vaccine Surveillance Report", the UK Department of Health (UKHSA) admits on page 23 that "N antibody levels appear to be lower in people who become infected after two doses of vaccination". It goes on to say that this drop in antibodies is essentially permanent. What does this mean? We know that vaccines do not prevent infection or transmission of the virus (indeed, reporting elsewhere shows that vaccinated adults are now much more likely to be infected than unvaccinated ones). The Brits are now finding that the vaccine interferes with the body's ability to produce antibodies after infection not only against the spike protein, but also against other parts of the virus. In particular, vaccinated people do not appear to form antibodies against the nucleocapsid protein, the virus coat, which is a crucial part of the response in unvaccinated people. In the long term, vaccinated people are more susceptible to any mutations of the spike protein, even if they have already been infected and cured once or more times. The unvaccinated, on the other hand, will acquire lasting, if not permanent, immunity to all strains of the supposed virus after being naturally infected with it even once. Source: https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/1027511/Vaccine-surveillance-report-week-42.pdf 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 29 Mar 2022 7 hours ago, sumguy said: Compare the hospitalizations to the number of cases: In January 2021, as the vaccine was just beginning to roll out, there was a peak of about 50,000 cases per day, with about 4,000 being admitted to hospital. A proportion of 0.08. In January 2022, with a peak of about 200,000 cases, we should have seen 16,000 hospitalizations if the vaccine was a "big lie". Yet there were just over 2,000. A proportion of 0.01. A reduction of more than 85%. Part of that could be attributed to Omicron causing less severe disease, but in large part it's the vaccines. There are enough studies from reliable sources that show that, if you care to look. But Mr.Bore doesn't care. He's only interested in trolling and spreading disinformation. The "big lie" is the one he is telling. Vaccines are highly effective, generally safe, and greatly reduce the chances of serious disease, hospitalization, and death. That's Omicron, not the vaxx. I personally know 10 persons with Omicron, not even one vaxxed and they didn't land in hospital after infection. Some of them said that is only a cold, some of them said that is a heavy flu like. All 10 are still alive and dandy. So that wonder vaxx doesn't work because they never got it in the first place. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 29 Mar 2022 2 hours ago, Mr.Bear said: I personally know 10 persons with Omicron, not even one vaxxed and they didn't land in hospital after infection. I know one who ended up in a coma and who is now in Reha to try and recover his lung capacity. I know one who had almost no symptoms. I know one who had a really bad flu from it. I know 3 who had a "cold" from it'scratchy throat,bit stuffed up etc. I know one who had nothing but really bad joint ache. The first 2 of those were not vaxxed,1 of the others was but was not boosted,the others were fully vaxxed. All this goes to prove is that the virus affects everybody in different ways,there is no telling what symptoms someone is going to show. Also I would be interested to know how you know they had Omicron because none of the stuff they had from gesundheitsamt and Doctors stated what variant they had merely that they had Covid 19. The one with joint ache lost his sense of taste and smell so its very likely he did not have Omicron. You cannot take such a small sample size and declare it to be the definitive answer. By your reckoning if I know 10 people who have had it and 2 of them have died from it then that means it has a 20% fatality rate which we know is bollocks but that´s what you´re promoting. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites