BREXIT positives and negatives

[fraufruit 42,166]

12 minutes ago, dstanners said:

I don't believe there are mums out there who are delighted to be putting poor quality food into their children's stomachs.

 

You forgot about the dads.

[Keleth 9,315]

19 hours ago, john g. said:

 

By the way, parents ARE or should be responsible for their childrens' nutrition. But, never mind, let someone else take the blame. And no yawning at the back!

Not sure if you´re being dense or trying to get a rise out of people.

Many families don´t have the time or money to ensure their kids eat nutritiously every day.

I can´t believe you really need it explained to you so not going to bother.

[Keleth 9,315]

3 hours ago, hooperski said:

Indeed, a First World problem.

Since when has not being able to afford to feed your kids properly or not at all been a first-world problem?

[Keleth 9,315]

3 hours ago, fraufruit said:

 

You forgot about the dads.

I´m willing to bet that no matter how much feminism has advanced, the mum still does most of the cooking.

[fraufruit 42,166]

It ain't the cooking but the shopping that determines what they eat. 

 

(Himself does both.)

[Keleth 9,315]

15 minutes ago, fraufruit said:

It ain't the cooking but the shopping that determines what they eat. 

 

(Himself does both.)

I do the shopping but from a list provided by the wife, she does 99% of the cooking though.

[hooperski 29,430]

1 hour ago, Keleth said:

Not sure if you´re being dense or trying to get a rise out of people.

Many families don´t have the time or money to ensure their kids eat nutritiously every day.

I can´t believe you really need it explained to you so not going to bother.

 

Well if it's simply an "either or" argument.

Don't have time = both parents working. So can afford nutricious food.

Don't have the money. I call bullshit. Nutricious food bought and prepared at home is way cheaper than buying processed crap.

Steak and kidney, liver, heart. All healthy as fuck and cheap.

[pappnase 2,625]

51 minutes ago, hooperski said:

Don't have the money. I call bullshit. Nutricious food bought and prepared at home is way cheaper than buying processed crap.

 

Where I grew up, the extra cost of the bus fareto the town meant that sometimes it was cheaper to eat fish and chips from the corner than to get a fresh meal.

If you are living in a hostel and cooking with just a microwave (or in some cases just a kettle) it's hard to make healthy nutritious food.

If you are trying to fill a belly in the evening to allow your kids to get to sleep, the value proposition of economy beans on whitebread toast is hard to beat.

 

[keith2011 2,648]

2 hours ago, hooperski said:

 

Well if it's simply an "either or" argument.

Don't have time = both parents working. So can afford nutricious food.

Don't have the money. I call bullshit. Nutricious food bought and prepared at home is way cheaper than buying processed crap.

Steak and kidney, liver, heart. All healthy as fuck and cheap.

 

You might want to check out how many working parents have to got to food banks in the UK because they can't afford to buy enough food!

[john g. 37,775]

6 hours ago, Keleth said:

Not sure if you´re being dense or trying to get a rise out of people.

Many families don´t have the time or money to ensure their kids eat nutritiously every day.

I can´t believe you really need it explained to you so not going to bother.

Neither nor, Keleth. ( Your first point ). But thanks for the compliment😂.

Some families - if we are talking Germany rather than Bolivia or Somalia etc- are seriously stretched financially. Fuel, heating prices bla bla currently etc.

Fully aware. I am not a millionaire, by the way. ( Was too lazy the previous 60 years and not interested in huge wealth, anyway. The sins of my hippy youth. )

 

Lived off school dinners as a teenager. Mum had left home for another man in my childhood. Hated pease pudding at school.

Was often hungry as an adolescent.

Four Yorkshiremen syndrome...

And I was envious of my school mate Colin, whose mum made him banana sandwiches when he came home from school. I was always around there but never got a banana. 😰

 

Anyway, if any parent puts their kids first as a priority- that is it. Forget the fags, the booze, the expensive car. Learn to cook. 
Yes, I understand the problems many have. I am still working and sometimes earning money because I am still ( sort of ) healthy but that can change.

And my daughter is doing well in her career and could shed a few pounds meanwhile as is my Nicole's son- but anyway my issue is: OBESE children and diabetes ist angesagt. Quite simply that.

 

I expect to be crucified on here! Fair enough!

We are all children of our time..

 

 

[Wulfrun 23,285]

[HH_Sailor 3,624]

OK, let's stay...

 

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Support for leaving the EU has dropped significantly, and sometimes dramatically, in member states across the bloc in the wake of the UK’s Brexit referendum, according to data from a major pan-European survey.

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Asked in the survey’s 2016-2017 round whether they would vote remain or leave in a Brexit-style referendum, 28.6% of respondents in Finland who declared which way they would vote said they would opt for leave, compared with 15.4% who were asked in 2020-2022 – a fall

of 13.2 percentage points.

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Similarly stark declines between 2016 and 2022 were also recorded in Slovenia (a drop of 10.7 points), the Netherlands (9.5), Italy and Portugal (9.1), Austria (8.5) and France (8.3), with smaller but still statistically significant falls in Hungary (5.8), Spain and Sweden (4.6), the Czech Republic (4.5) and Germany (2.6).

 

Seems that the citizens of the EU, after watching the UK chaos, are now even more willing to stay than leave

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[Keleth 9,315]

People still believe and even worse vote for these fuckwits...

 

[kiplette 8,712]

On 02/01/2023, 10:54:19, fraufruit said:

 

Yet nothing about all that extra money that was going to shore up the NHS.

 

Kid#1 came over for Xmas and Nana of the family we often spend Boxing Day with kindly passed on some lurgy to us all, which Kid#1 started with once she was home in Sheffield.

 

Today she said she was feeling worse and was off sick because she didn't have the energy to walk to the bus stop and was breathing badly, so I suggested going to see the GP, and the result of that was eventually speaking to a tired receptionist who explained that they don't have enough receptionists, doctors or nurses, and she should wait for her medication review at the end of the month (assuming she breathes sufficiently for the rest of the month, I suppose ).

 

When I said that presumably the plan is that you go to A&E if it gets really bad (she honestly thinks she'll be fine with a bit of a rest) she explained that you call 111, where a non-medically trained person tells you if your condition is life threatening enough for A&E where you can be waiting 24 hours in the queue. Ambulance waits for heart attacks are now 90 mins on average.

 

It is going to implode. 

 

Contrast with Paps who really was suffering with exhaustion just after Xmas, and we made an appointment with a random doc to get a sick note (hadn't registered with one yet), saw him later that day, he suggested rest but with the proviso that we went to A&E if he got worse in the night, and that we come back to him any day if he got worse, and they would begin a battery of tests to find out the exact problem. That is a functioning health system.

[john_b 3,385]

From Private Eye

 

 

[murphaph 9,814]

Oh that's a classic, John! That's one for Hellfire :-)

[john_b 3,385]

Hellfire wouldn’t need a battery operated detector, he could fuel it entirely on hot air 🥵 

[fraufruit 42,166]

You know what happens when you mention his name 3 times, don't you?

 

 

ETA - Do NOT click your heels together.

[snowingagain 5,354]

 

[fraufruit 42,166]

LMAO!