BREXIT positives and negatives

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1 hour ago, yesterday said:

This is from sky about the runners and riders, Steve Baker it would seem is well down the list

 

What and Rees-Mogg is not even on the list the, clearly fake news!:D

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53 minutes ago, keith2011 said:

 

What and Rees-Mogg is not even on the list the, clearly fake news!:D

 

The new leader doesn`t have a mandate to lead the country.

 

General election May 2023 ?

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2 hours ago, RenegadeFurther said:

 

The new leader doesn`t have a mandate to lead the country.

 

 

No UK leader has ever had a mandate to lead the country. The party has the mandate, and it can choose whoever it wants.

 

Of course a new leader may want to have an election. Theresa may did, and that was undoubetdly a mistake. BJ did, but he had a lot to gain over TMs non-majority. A new leader is going to inherit an 80 seat majority and can only lose from another election.

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Not very impressed with how long its taken them to work out he needs to go. Shows how many went along with bending the rules and the truth. And some of them still are! 

 

Not expecting  much better from his successor on reparing the broken relationship with Europe. Maybe even worse if nutters like Steve Baker, Liz Truss or the Suella woman get anywhere near.  On the Brexit question, can't say I'm greatly impressed with Labour either. Instead of geting to the root problem, which is being outside the EEA Single Market, Starmer is proposing just tinkering around the margins.  UK exports to Europe are 25% down. They need to tackle the root cause of that.  Hope the Lib Dems get their act together and highlight that. 

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Hoping beyond hope that the next PM has a better attitude towards Ireland and the rest of the European Union and won't just use them for domestic political gain. It wasn't breaking international law or even domestic law that toppled Johnson. It was the Pincher affair. This is not to downplay the seriousness of what Puncher did and Johnson's role in putting him in that position of power, but relatively speaking this is minor compared to the stuff Johnson had already done. International law is the highest level of law. If your country doesn't abide by treaties it becomes a pariah state. I am not all that optimistic that the ultra right Tory party won't pick someone in their own image or stupid enough to do their bidding.

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On 7.7.2022, 12:56:12, pappnase said:

Just saw this from a friend too..

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Truly awful. I worry for those who will not be afford to heat their houses in winter either.

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On 07/07/2022, 12:56:12, pappnase said:

Just saw this from a friend too..

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Looks to me like another one of those fake empty shelves photos. Bet you won't see that in Waitrose or Tesco!

 

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My ex sister in law and her husband went to London to celebrate their anniversary. Some how she broke her arm and wrist. The NHS wouldn't treat her. They had to fly back to US.

 

They came home with covid.

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15 minutes ago, fraufruit said:

My ex sister in law and her husband went to London to celebrate their anniversary. Some how she broke her arm and wrist. The NHS wouldn't treat her. They had to fly back to US.

 

They came home with covid.

 

It's not called Old Blighty for nothing... ;) 

 

Blight

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36 minutes ago, fraufruit said:

My ex sister in law and her husband went to London to celebrate their anniversary. Some how she broke her arm and wrist. The NHS wouldn't treat her. They had to fly back to US.

 

They came home with covid.

That is very odd and wrong.  I mean, they may well charge you.  I know people this has happenned to, uncle from abroad.    I do suspect it might have been someone giving out info wrongly. 

 

Here is the US embassy advice on NHS treatment

 

Medical Information for U.S. visitors to the United Kingdom (usembassy.gov)

Including: 

 

IMPORTANT: Anyone in the UK can receive treatment at an NHS facility, no matter their residency status. However, tourist visitors to the UK do not typically qualify for free NHS treatment. Any care beyond emergency treatment and certain other services will likely incur a fee. Medicare and Medicaid do not provide coverage for medical care outside the United States.

 
Bit late now.  Hope they are all better.

 

 

 

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42 minutes ago, fraufruit said:

My ex sister in law and her husband went to London to celebrate their anniversary. Some how she broke her arm and wrist. The NHS wouldn't treat her. They had to fly back to US.

 

They came home with covid.

 

Wouldn't or couldn't? Seems that in London and the south east you can wait 2 weeks or more for an appointment with a GP and that only after holding hours on the phone before getting through to someone who can give you an appointment. No surprise people give up and go to A&E at the nearest hospital which may be horribly overloaded but at least you stand a chance of seeing a medical professional, if not a doctor, within 48 hours of arriving. Your ex sister in law was lucky she could fly back to the US for treatment the NHS is more like Fred Karno's circus these days and covid is endemic in hospitals or clinics over there.

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14 minutes ago, fraufruit said:

She could have easily paid. They are extremely rich. And they lived in the UK for some years. 

Sorry this happened.  It does not make any sense at all.  Except that I have had NHS staff tell me crap.  At the hospitals, as there is not anything set up for paying, and they are short of money, admin staff are being prompted to be stroppy.   I wish they had contacted their embassy.  Fucking stupid.  There are even completely private doctors who could have sorted her out.

 

When I got fobbed off a doctor friend in London was so pissed off he followed up on it explained the rules and told them they were crap at their job.

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I guess they were more comfortable sitting in first class and seeing her own specialist in the US where she got immediate and excellent treatment.

 

That's what I would have done.

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2 minutes ago, fraufruit said:

I guess they were more comfortable sitting in first class and seeing her own specialist in the US where she got immediate and excellent treatment.  That's what I would have done.

Sure, but it is the refusal of treatment that is wild.   

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While people in the UK wait for months or years for simple operations like gall bladder removal while living in pain.

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