Posted 9 Sep 2021 Me and Mrs Chelski got married last year. I was divorced in the UK in 2006. In preparation for the legalites we both took a day of work. She took all the relevant papers and we started at one Amt, then moved to another Amt and maybe another. I don't clearly remember as her instructions to me were: "Don't say a fucking word. Let me do the talking. Just sit there, smile and nod your head. Only speak when spoken to... and PLEASE don't steal any more fucking stempels!" * Mrs Chelski is very good with Beamters. She adopts this lovely, bubbly, chatty personae. She can melt an Ice Dragon in 2 minutes flat and a male in 30secs simply by sitting up straight and sticking out her tits. Which is a highlight for any Beamter who's just had people moaning and complaining day after day. * My mate down the pub says that allegedly this may be a reference to when I first arrived in Germany. Mrs Chelski took me from Amt to Amt (register, social security, DAK etc). At every Amt when they found out I was British they just said "Ausländer Amt! Not here! Ausländer Amt" so we went around in a few circles but eventually got me sorted. I couldn't speak a word of German and but the one thing I couldn't help notice was the stempels. How archaic! The first point of contact tended to have 3-4 hanging from a wooden stempel carousel. If we were referred to a senior colleague and moved desks into the inner office maybe 6-8. On two occasions we ended up in the Bosses office. Who had 12 or more. I was very bored and on many occasions people had to leave their desks to seek further advice. I like to do card tricks as I do have the sleight of hand. My mate down the pub says that allegedly the final score that day was Germany 0 - 13 Britain. I have no idea what he's talking about so couldn't possibly comment. 9 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 9 Sep 2021 4 hours ago, murphaph said: I guess if you are prepared to indemnify the guy against any penalties, financial or otherwise arising out of lying to the registrar and entering into an invalid marriage, then he should at least consider it. I'm betting you won't be making such an offer if indemnity however ;-) So says the man waiting at the corner at 4am for the light to change on a country road so he can cross to the other side. Oh, please. Ok, I indemnify him. Feel better? People like you know the price of everything and the value of nothing. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 9 Sep 2021 3 hours ago, cb6dba said: I'd say this falls under the 'you make your choice and take your chances'. OP is free do anything he wants here, he can lie and even knock up a fake certificate in photoshop, if he doesn't get caught, no consequences. If he does, well, let's hope he posts here what happened. Feel free to answer my questions... 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 9 Sep 2021 2 hours ago, Chelski said: Me and Mrs Chelski got married last year. I was divorced in the UK in 2006. In preparation for the legalites we both took a day of work. She took all the relevant papers and we started at one Amt, then moved to another Amt and maybe another. I don't clearly remember as her instructions to me were: "Don't say a fucking word. Let me do the talking. Just sit there, smile and nod your head. Only speak when spoken to... and PLEASE don't steal any more fucking stempels!" * Chelski, you are a GREAT storyteller. Ever think of doing standup or writing a funny book? I'm serious! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 9 Sep 2021 1 hour ago, Metall said: Chelski, you are a GREAT storyteller. Ever think of doing standup or writing a funny book? I'm serious! That's very kind of you Metall but I have no idea where to start. I just enjoy observing our host nation and thinking WTF? Especially when comparing it to Britain. That then creates this huge cultural abyss in my head which is a great vacuum to be filled with humour. Thank you for the compliment. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 10 Sep 2021 17 hours ago, catjones said: I knew when I wrote my comment that someone would reply with the letter of the law and wag their finger at the extremes of german justice, so thanks. Your "serious consequences" and "tens hundreds of thousands" are projections not based in any reality. Can you point to two real situations where these occurred? My god, the guy wants to get married, let him. When he gets divorced, his ex will "tell on him", but since he can't find documentation, neither will she and if they can't how much time do you think the Finanzamt will spend tracking it down? Answer: zero. 16 hours ago, cb6dba said: I'd say this falls under the 'you make your choice and take your chances'. OP is free do anything he wants here, he can lie and even knock up a fake certificate in photoshop, if he doesn't get caught, no consequences. If he does, well, let's hope he posts here what happened. 12 hours ago, catjones said: Feel free to answer my questions... I'm not sure this little thread requires me to answer anything unless you need me to take part in some kind of drama. Your first reply suggests you are unhappy that someone may have contradicted you, pointing out something you may have missed or said something that may make your advise look incorrect. You answer to me suggests you did not like my comment but could not find any hook there. If I were to answer any questions I'd answer the ones from the OP. As I said, the OP has a number of options open to him, he can do whatever he feels is correct. If he breaks the rules and gets caught, that's life. maybe he'll get lucky. I'd say the best way is to follow the rules and jump through any hoops he's required to. The OP will carry the consequences so he carries the responsibility of his actions. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 10 Sep 2021 I wish to point out that even if the male OP got away with dodging the roolz (not to be encouraged) in the short term, it could well be his future wife who pays the price further down the line, i.e. once he's no longer around. It is already 2021 and the world is shrinking. Peace of mind has no price. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 10 Sep 2021 Yep. As already mentioned, life insurance companies and pension funds have people employed to find ways to deny claims. I wouldn't be surprised if it's SOP in the case of divorcees who remarry to check that the second marriage was actually valid. Not worth the uncertainty when there are perfectly legal ways around it now. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
