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Briefly, I was pulled over on the 19.05.21 by the police for using my phone whilst driving a company auto. Understandably, the police said I will be receiving a fine and a point off my license. The fine they said will be sent directly to me and not to the company. Another colleague of mine was also caught that day and received his fine via the post about 3 weeks ago.  The only thing I received in the post from them is the below link

https://imgur.com/UlfYMSj

 

There was no fine included or any other information.  I will be leaving Germany permanently at the end of this month and I am trying to tie up all my loose ends here.  Am I legally required to contact the police and tell them to send me the fine, or can I just leave this as a lucky chance? I certainly don't want any serious repercussions or blow back, especially if in some way the police think that I am trying to evade a fine.  But if they haven't given me a fine then I haven't been fined, or?

 

As usual they spelt my names incorrectly, could that be a factor here?

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Not sure.. that is quite a mouthful in that sentence of theirs. " Eingestellt "... doesn't that mean " stopped?"

 

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Idk, I ran it through Google translate and got even more confused.

 

My son believes it to mean discontinued or absolved.

 

That would be great!

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Yeah, that's my feeling as well.. but I am not a native speaker of German😂

But I AM a native speaker of English...erm, what is Idk?😂

 

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very simple:

"eingestellt" means they won't take any further action in this matter - you're not being fined, nobody else is going to be fined either. 

 

Case closed.

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They write that they "dropped the charges" (Verfahren eingestellt)

 

Archive the bit of paper for the next 10 yrs (just in case) and sleep with a clear concience.

 

Well apart from actually doing something known to be daft and dangerous !!

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4 minutes ago, john g. said:

Yeah, that's my feeling as well.. but I am not a native speaker of German😂

But I AM a native speaker of English...erm, what is Idk?😂

 

Idk = I don't know 😉

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Well, bloody write in English next time!😂😂❤️

Or write it in German: Iwn😂

And next time change the thread title to HaS... easier to understand!!!

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3 minutes ago, karin_brenig said:

very simple:

"eingestellt" means they won't take any further action in this matter - you're not being fined, nobody else is going to be fined either. 

 

Case closed.

Ok, well that's a relief. Thank you!

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13 minutes ago, HH_Sailor said:

 

Well apart from actually doing something known to be daft and dangerous !!

Yeah, it's not something I usually do as normally i have the Freisprechanlage function running but on that day I was not using my normal company vehicle so my phone was not connected.  There was massive Roadwerk ahead with a traffic light so I turned the engine off and I called to tell the client I might be late, somewhere up in the surrounding hills was an officer with his binoculars taking everyone's license down, 200 meters down the road they pulled me over along with 15 other vehicles.  I told them I was at the light with the engine off and she told me she will write that in her report but I most probably will still be fined for it.

 

But yes, I agree - it was wrong of me to operate a phone regardless. 

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Just for your confirmation:

https://www.gesetze-im-internet.de/owig_1968/__47.html

 

This parapgraph gives the Bussgeldstelle the right to stop the administrative offense (Ordnungswidrigkeit) if it is not a crime with compulsory court proceedings. In the latter case the Bussgeldstelle needs permission from the Staatsanwaltschaft which is definitely not the case here. 

 

Keep this letter just in case.

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4 hours ago, crossman said:

But yes, I agree - it was wrong of me to operate a phone regardless.

If the engine is switched off you´re allowed to use your cell. I guess that´s why they didn´t take it any further.

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18 hours ago, john g. said:

Well, bloody write in English next time!😂😂❤️

Or write it in German: Iwn😂

And next time change the thread title to HaS... easier to understand!!!

 

vff! (Very fukc§$& funny)

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18 hours ago, crossman said:

Yeah, it's not something I usually do as normally i have the Freisprechanlage function running but on that day I was not using my normal company vehicle so my phone was not connected.  There was massive Roadwerk ahead with a traffic light so I turned the engine off and I called to tell the client I might be late, somewhere up in the surrounding hills was an officer with his binoculars taking everyone's license down, 200 meters down the road they pulled me over along with 15 other vehicles.  I told them I was at the light with the engine off and she told me she will write that in her report but I most probably will still be fined for it.

 

But yes, I agree - it was wrong of me to operate a phone regardless. 

 

In Australia they send you back to England on a convict ship if you get caught doing this, and they will take an arm and a leg before you are transported too. Bit over the top there, but not taken seriously enough here in my humble antipodean opinion. Drives (;-)) me crazy sometimes when I see (predominantly) young people fanging around with phone in one hand and...

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Deportation? %). Maybe even to New Zeeland for repeaters? What is the punishment really, a fine? How much?

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16 hours ago, Fietsrad said:

Deportation? %). Maybe even to New Zeeland for repeaters? What is the punishment really, a fine? How much?

 

In my state, will cost you about 345 EUR and points for the basic infringement, here, between 100 (basic) and 200. Why not raise the fines here? There's no excuse for using your mobile while driving if you ask me.

 

This guy will tell you the same thing.

 

 

What do you think? Excessive? Vigilante whose power has gone to his head? Fair enough?

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Very good, but what happens when they get their licences back after six months or more? I bet many offend again.

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I am all for severe penalties for using a cellphone while operating a moving vehicle but I can understand the pressure that comes under when one is running on company time especially in this present digital age -- where everything is schnell schnell schnell.

 

In the last company I was in we were given the contacts/clients details via a program that could only be accessed by our laptops all our previous files that were previously given to us in paper format is now only digital, which can only be accessed via internet on a laptop. 

 

Our Werkkries is southernly from the Swiss border to the Austrian border, westerly next to Reutlingen and easterly to Ingolstadt above Munich.  Anyone here in Germany can attest to the absolute horrid coverage that exists here in Germany where you turn a bend in the road and are immediately cut off from your call.  The worst part is so many of the roadside "parking" have zero connectivity so you can't even inform your client as to if you will be punctual or not which was a requirement to call a half hour before arrival to inform the client as to your expected TOR.

 

So because our company wants to save our trees but drill for oil instead I can no longer take a quick peek at a paper file (paper is Umweltunfreundlich) for a clients number at a traffic light but I now have to boot up a laptop and hope that it will connect and synchronize before the light turns green and the signal disappears once again.  And when you have over 3 clients per day and have been driving over 300km your brain says fuck it, pick up any phone even your private that has a signal and dial.

 

Sometimes, I am not even late but I will still get a call from our main office asking me if I will be on time. It gets to you eventually, I am usually a chilled person, but it does get to you.

 

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