Birth Certificate for Child

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Hello Everyone,

I have a problem in getting the birth certificate "Geburtsurkunde" for my baby, she is born on 12th May 2021.

I filled out a form "Geburtsanzeige" birth announcement in the hospital, which hospital guys have shared with the "Standesamt"

I called "Standesamt" and they asked me to bring "Passport", "Marriage Certificate".

I went there and they told me that they need to verify my marriage because they don't accept this marriage certificate from India (although I have a german translation for that also).

They gave me a three-page letter, and in that, it is written that they need some documents like Birth Certificate, 10th or 12th class mark sheet, etc, and they will ship these documents to India (German Embassy-not sure) for verification.

Links to those letters
https://imgur.com/Hj6LTKZ

https://imgur.com/4t8uwQx

https://imgur.com/L901LFB

 

The problem is I have all my original documents in India except my marriage certificate, and getting those documents to Germany will take a lot of time because nobody is at home where these documents are, and they told me that once they receive the documents, they will ask for some fees not sure how much and will send all these documents to India (New Delhi) for verification purpose, which can take up to three months of time.

I found a few posts similar to this marriage verification, but they are mostly related to the finance office not accepting the marriage, and hence this process is needed. --> links at the bottom.

My question is, can someone help me what should I do in this case? any suggestions?

Because delay in the birth certificate will delay in getting a health insurance card, which is not a problem as of now but if it takes months then it can be a problem. (Also there are few other things like KinderGeld, and ElternGeld, which I don't bother as of now, priority is getting health insurance for my baby and then passport and then residence permit, so that we can travel to India when needed)

Some other information:

I am here in Germany with my wife since June 2019

No plans for permanent settlement in Germany, want to go back to India in the next 1 to 1,5 years, permanently.

My Tax class is already changed, which means that Finance Office has accepted my Marriage Certificate (there was no discussion at all if there was some problem with my marriage certificate or not).

My wife is not working, she is a housewife, and her health insurance is linked with mine.

Please suggest some solution, because getting documents from India will take a lot of time, and will delay everything.

Let me know if someone needs some more information.

 

 

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Even if another German authority has accepted your documents, the Standesamt still has the right to have Indian documents verified for authenticity because Germany considers India a country with unreliable documents.

 

While you are waiting for the Urkundenüberprüfung to be completed, you can obtain an Auszug aus dem Geburtenregister that you can send to your Krankenkasse as well as to apply for Elterngeld

 

 

 

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On 5/31/2021, 2:10:58, engelchen said:

Even if another German authority has accepted your documents, the Standesamt still has the right to have Indian documents verified for authenticity because Germany considers India a country with unreliable documents.

 

While you are waiting for the Urkundenüberprüfung to be completed, you can obtain an Auszug aus dem Geburtenregister that you can send to your Krankenkasse as well as to apply for Elterngeld

 

 

 

Thank You @engelchen for your response.

Thanks to @Straightpoop and @murphaph

I didn't get a notification on my email id so thought nobody has provided me a response.

 

Do you know how much time I have to initiate this verification process? Right now it is not started, I am working on a second option.

As I mentioned that my original documents are in India(I only have my marriage certificate original here), and there is no one at home because due to the corona situation my family moved from the city to the village (which is a safer option), so once someone will come back, I can ask them to send all these documents to me. I want to know if there is some time limit to apply for a Birth certificate for the same.

 

The second option, I am here in Rothenburg ob der Tauber, and before me, there were three Indian babies which were born, and they also faced similar problems.

1st case: this guy knows German, and his wife name was on his passport and wife's passport also has the name of his husband, he knows the German language very well, and he discussed with them, his marriage was also not verified, but he discussed with them and requested them to forward his application further and let it rejected from the higher authorities if there is some problem, and luckily all went fine.

2nd case: these guys don't know German, and they faced the same problem, they were asked to verify their marriage, and they submitted around 470 Euro's to start the verification, but at that time German Embassy in India was closed, and nothing happens, "Standesamt" has returned the fees, but these guys did something by which they get the birth certificate for their child.

They get their marriage certificate translated using "State Certified Translator" here in Germany, and also they contacted Indian Embassy in Munich and asked them to issue a Birth Certificate for them, and after giving these documents everything works well. And I think they get the birth certificate after 5 or 6 months.

3rd Case: these guys were in relation to the 2nd case guys, so they told everything in advance, they translated their Marriage Certificate, and get Birth Certificates from Indian Embassy Munich, and then all went well without any problem.

 

So, at the moment I am trying this option, and if this doesn't work I will follow the standard procedure of verification.

But let's suppose this whole process is delayed by 5-6 months, as mentioned above did I get Elterngeld and KinderGeld, from the date of birth or just from the time I get the certificate.

 

Also, I didn't understand this line properly.

"While you are waiting for the Urkundenüberprüfung to be completed, you can obtain an Auszug aus dem Geburtenregister that you can send to your Krankenkasse as well as to apply for Elterngeld. "

to get a temporary certificate, and apply for Elterngeld, do I need to send it to Krankenhaus.

 

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Hello Everyone

Just to update everyone, yesterday I got the birth certificate for my baby.

 

None of the methods I mentioned above works, and I have to follow the standard procedure of verification of documents.

I asked my brother to send the original documents to us in Germany.

And then I shared these documents (10th Marksheet of mine and my wife, Birth Certificates of mine and my wife along with English Translation because mine one was in Hindi Language)

I have given these original documents plus some marriage photographs to Standesamt and they sent these documents and photographs to German Embassy in New Delhi.

There were few re-loops, as German Embassy in India has demanded more photographs of marriage (I have to share almost 40 photos), they asked for priest contact number, and also the photograph of priest along with us.

German Embassy in New Delhi has also requested the photos of movement across sacred fire (Hindu Religion Stuff), and I have to write my marriage in a DVD and have to share with them.

So there are multiple re-loops, but once German Embassy in New Delhi, India received everything they initiate the verification and it was really quick.

In 4-weeks verification was done (verification was done at two separate states in India).

Verification Includes following things and my family experience.

* A guy came and verified my school certificate by visiting the school (The guy came was very very rude)

* This guy visited my home, near new Delhi (Same guy and he was very rude, he was considering us defaulters and his expectation was my family member should take him to all places else he will write negative stuff in the reports)

* They visited my wife's home in Himachal Pradesh (Different Guy, very nice guy and he was saying just tell me the place and I will go my self, you don't need to take trouble because of me, it's my responsibility and I am paid for that, he was very polite in nature also)

* He met with the Priest

* He met some local residence and took an agreement from them, that they have seen the marriage.

* He verified my wife's schooling in Himachal Pradesh

* He verified my wife's birth certificate in Himachal Pradesh

* He visited my parent's in Himachal Pradesh

* He visited a place very far away to verify my birth certificate

 

And that's all.

 

So my advise would be to get all your documents ready and go for verification, it will take only 4-weeks.

I have to pay 550 Euros, but they mentioned that I will get some amount back, probably 80-90 Euros.

 

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Sheesh!

 

Talk about motivation for just living in sin!

 

My hat's off to ArunSharma for this display of world-class tenacity.

 

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