Got my first Pfizer shot, shocked by German vaccination certificate standard

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7 hours ago, HH_Sailor said:

Ah Sweden eh...

Eh? I'm Swedish, and have never heard of a national medical ID card? Anyway, got my first jab a week ago - and they didn't ask for any ID at all!  Well, they asked me to tell them my personal number, but I didn't have to show anything, which surprised me. 

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3 hours ago, HH_Sailor said:

Had 3 different docs here in DE (Hamburg and SH) and none had such stuff.

MRTs were handed to me on paper (lately with a disc).

Handed in to my Dr they were scanned in or he read it from the disc.

Any specialists gave me their paper reports to pass on...

 

Same here.  Paper reports and printed out x-rays given to me to pass on.  If I need access to any test results, I would have to go to the doctor and ask for it and they will print it out for me.  Probably for a fee too.  I never had to do this.

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19 minutes ago, Elljay said:

Eh? I'm Swedish, and have never heard of a national medical ID card? Anyway, got my first jab a week ago - and they didn't ask for any ID at all!  Well, they asked me to tell them my personal number, but I didn't have to show anything, which surprised me. 

 

Maybe they have a link to the driver license database and saw your photo pop up so didn't need to ask.

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As well as the stamp and vaccine dose reference in my yellow Impfpass I got a document with all the details and a reference number plus QR code which presumably links to a database which can be used later for other document or whatever.

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15 hours ago, BethAnnBitt said:

 According to this data 🇨🇭 has fully vaccinated 9.9% of its population compared to 7.3% in 🇩🇪. 

https://www.euronews.com/2021/04/26/covid-19-vaccinations-in-europe-which-countries-are-leading-the-way

Yes, somehow they are better at completing two jabs/person than Germany. the explanation is of course that they do second shot 3 weeks after first shot while in Germany, France, ect they wait 5-7 weeks  Somehow it seem that lately the number of people who received th,eir first shoot is used very often in media:  DE- 23% , CH-18%

But for me the efficiency would be by how many vaccines are expedited per 100 inhabitants. DE 32%, CH 28% 

BTW: the world leader is Gibraltar with 95% of population fully vaccinated and 202 does expedited by 100 people so let's not get too enthusiastic about German or Swiss efficiency as yet  :-) 

https://ourworldindata.org/covid-vaccinations 

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30 minutes ago, aeroplane said:

while in Germany, France, ect they wait 5-7 weeks

 

Make that 12 weeks for AZ. That's how long I have to wait.

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Had the first vaccination yesterday. I got the same little stickers in the yellow book. This will not be a big hit at the UK border. I hope the EU green pas will be sorted out soon. I don't know how my records get in there. 

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19 minutes ago, fraufruit said:

 

Make that 12 weeks for AZ. That's how long I have to wait.

 

Some research seems to indicate that waiting 12 weeks between shots maximizes protection with AZ.  With Pfizer, they recommend 3 weeks but the company has said that up to 6 weeks should be ok.  Currently Niedersachsen is booking Pfizer shots 6 weeks apart.

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20 hours ago, BethAnnBitt said:

And the Swiss are going 3-4weeks btwn shots instead of 5-6 like here.  And they are giving them in tents and on ships and other such places.  They are practical.

Population of Switzerland 9m

Population of Germany 83m

It´s all to do with the shortage of vaccines.If Switzerland have 20m that´s enough for the complete programme,ifGermany have 20m it´s a bit different.

The idea is to get as many people the 1st dose as possible to get the rate down until countries have enough doses to do everyone twice.

17 hours ago, fraufruit said:

You are completely wrong about all of this. Things are much more modernized now. When I have a consultation or treatment anywhere, it is on my GP's computer immediately. No more schlepping around paper reports like before. I had a CT scan a couple of months ago at a radiology that I had never been to before. The radiologist called me in to give me my results and stated "You still have the so and so on your so and so that was found on an abdominal MRT in 2017. He had that information at his fingertips.

I´ve not had to carry any paperwork with me for the doc for 5 or so years I´d say.

The bone doc asked me if I wanted a copy of the xray and always gave me a copy of the letter he was sending to the hausartzt or whoever but as to actually having to have any nope.

21 hours ago, aeroplane said:

So I wonder: will this yellow booklet I got, be recognized at all when traveling abroad?

Have you read the cover ?

Impfausweis – Wikipedia

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22 hours ago, aeroplane said:

There is no id-details except the name, the vaccine is not identified by secure means plus there are probably other issues 

Let´s be honest up until now who the fuck wanted to lie about being vaccinated against yellow fever or such ?

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2 minutes ago, Keleth said:

Let´s be honest up until now who the fuck wanted to lie about being vaccinated against yellow fever or such ?

 

Anti-vaxxers who still want to travel?

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11 hours ago, LeonG said:

 

Maybe they have a link to the driver license database and saw your photo pop up so didn't need to ask.

well its simpler than that : Elljay was more than certain asked for his "personnummer" and it linked them national medical record.  Sweden relies of "personnummer" heavily, and even than indeed, its not the same as an ID check, in most cases people assume that knowing one's "personnummer" is "good enough" measure for security.

12 hours ago, Elljay said:

Eh? I'm Swedish, and have never heard of a national medical ID card?

I don't believe anyone in the previous post said anything about national medical card. Although in the past ( and maybe still) there was a plastic "Patientkort"  which everyone had and you could say it was almost a National Health Card , but I have lost mine in the nineties and as it was never a problem not having it :once I gave my "personnummer" I was served without it, so I never ask for a new one.   

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1 hour ago, Keleth said:

Let´s be honest up until now who the fuck wanted to lie about being vaccinated against yellow fever or such ?

 

very true. but since this vaccine has been created by the evil Bill Gates to track your every move, there is actually a black market for fake copies of the document. 

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2 hours ago, fraufruit said:

 

Make that 12 weeks for AZ. That's how long I have to wait.

Cyprus recently reduced that interval to 8 weeks claiming that it was more effective that way.

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Well, my British "record" is a credit card size piece of cardboard with an NHS logo on, my name and nothing else (and no space to put anything else) and a date and the word "Moderna" scribbled on it. That's it. The NHS hopefully has a better record, but nothing I can get my hands on. Spacing between vaccinations is 3 months, no matter which vaccine you get. You can't chose, you get given whatever is in stock. No idea what happens on the second date, if they then will have all three in stock  ? Got vaccinated in an empty football stadium, it's not like the AFC Wimbledon can use their brand new stadium for anything else right now.
If I go and see a consultant here, I take paper copies of all my documents, as they usually only have about 50% on their computers, sometimes less than that. My GP gives me printouts from their electronic records for exactly this purpose.

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21 hours ago, BethAnnBitt said:

Stone Age here too.  No bloodwork or records of visits are digitally available.  I have a folder to keep the papers.  And my husband has to bring the CD with X-rays each time he visits the specialist who needs to see them.  

Because of meds I take I have to have a blood test at the Hausarzt every 3 months. Then I go back a few days later, pay 50c for a print out so I can take it one Stadtbahn stop away to the Facharzt's office because they want to see the results before giving me a prescription.

 

I did ask them if they would fax, email or even post, but no. Almost makes you miss the NHS.

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33 minutes ago, Dembo said:

Because of meds I take I have to have a blood test at the Hausarzt every 3 months. Then I go back a few days later, pay 50c for a print out so I can take it one Stadtbahn stop away to the Facharzt's office because they want to see the results before giving me a prescription.

 

I did ask them if they would fax, email or even post, but no. Almost makes you miss the NHS.

 

Have you tried asking your Hausarzt very nicely if he could prescribe the meds for you? I also need to get meds every quarter and I went to my Hausärztin with the packaging for all the meds I needed and asked if she could please save me a trip to all the specialists by prescribing them for me. 

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10 minutes ago, engelchen said:

 

Have you tried asking your Hausarzt very nicely if he could prescribe the meds for you? I also need to get meds every quarter and I went to my Hausärztin with the packaging for all the meds I needed and asked if she could please save me a trip to all the specialists by prescribing them for me. 

That's a good suggestion. In the UK I did get everything from the GP, but of course the specialist had access to the records. I assume if I did get the prescription from the Hausarzt the specialist would still want to see the test results; after all he's the expert. 

 

I should probably just find a Hausarzt with one of those new fangled fax machines.

 

 

 

 

 

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5 hours ago, aeroplane said:

well its simpler than that : Elljay was more than certain asked for his "personnummer" and it linked them national medical record.  Sweden relies of "personnummer" heavily, and even than indeed, its not the same as an ID check, in most cases people assume that knowing one's "personnummer" is "good enough" measure for security.

I don't believe anyone in the previous post said anything about national medical card. Although in the past ( and maybe still) there was a plastic "Patientkort"  which everyone had and you could say it was almost a National Health Card , but I have lost mine in the nineties and as it was never a problem not having it :once I gave my "personnummer" I was served without it, so I never ask for a new one.   

 

Same in Iceland.  We have an ID number based on the birthdate and although you may be asked for ID at the bank, I never had it happen with medical care.  We also had a health card in the 80's but you don't need them anymore.

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1 hour ago, Dembo said:

Because of meds I take I have to have a blood test at the Hausarzt every 3 months. Then I go back a few days later, pay 50c for a print out so I can take it one Stadtbahn stop away to the Facharzt's office because they want to see the results before giving me a prescription.

 

I did ask them if they would fax, email or even post, but no. Almost makes you miss the NHS.

 

I just go to the specialist for the blood test.  Cut out the middle man.  I also negotiiated with the specialist to give me the new prescription before they get the result or if they really want to see the result, then to mail me the prescription so I don't have to go twice.  The doctor was fine with it, the assistants always gave me lip.  I often had to tell them to ask the doc, he said it's ok.  Eventually I asked the doc to make a note of it in the computer so they can see it when they enter my name.

 

47 minutes ago, engelchen said:

Have you tried asking your Hausarzt very nicely if he could prescribe the meds for you? I also need to get meds every quarter and I went to my Hausärztin with the packaging for all the meds I needed and asked if she could please save me a trip to all the specialists by prescribing them for me. 

 

I tried this but some medication are too expensive for the hausarzt.  I understand they have a budget and if they prescribe too much, they get fined by the kasse.  Specialists apparently have a bigger budget.

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