How long can I stay in Germany?

[Bobbyhall 10]

11 minutes ago, Alexnf said:

https://tinyurl.com/permSolution

😂

 

Quite curious as to how many people have gotten married to stay in Germany now. 
 

Surely there has to be some sort of partner visa, like in Australia. 
 

https://www.bmi.bund.de/SharedDocs/kurzmeldungen/EN/2020/08/einreise-unverheirateter-paare-en.html

[fraufruit 37,661]

17 minutes ago, Bobbyhall said:

Quite curious as to how many people have gotten married to stay in Germany now. 

 

How could you suggest such a thing?

 

We got married so I could get on his insurance. 

[HH_Sailor 2,750]

48 minutes ago, fraufruit said:

How could you suggest such a thing?

We got married so I could get on his insurance. 

 

Several of my (then future) wife's student colleagues thought we had to marry

to prevent me being deported.

 

Sings... "what's love got to do with it"

[HEM 10,352]

1 hour ago, HH_Sailor said:

Sings... "what's love got to do with it"

 

There seems to be a long list of appropriate Lieder...

[john g. 35,247]

2 hours ago, Bobbyhall said:

😂

 

Quite curious as to how many people have gotten married to stay in Germany now. 
 

Surely there has to be some sort of partner visa, like in Australia. 
 

https://www.bmi.bund.de/SharedDocs/kurzmeldungen/EN/2020/08/einreise-unverheirateter-paare-en.html

But you still need practice in the wooing phase👍🏼🙏🏻

[john g. 35,247]

36 minutes ago, HEM said:

 

There seems to be a long list of appropriate Lieder...

On the other hand...🙏🏻
 

https://youtu.be/-wNhdjoF-6M

[HEM 10,352]

38 minutes ago, john g. said:

But you still need practice in the wooing phase👍🏼🙏🏻

 

I had to ask mine 3 times.  That was 32 years ago...

[jubinjohn 143]

I did not even ask anyone, i went for vacation in my hometown, came back married

[john g. 35,247]

On 1/16/2021, 5:09:39, fraufruit said:

 

How could you suggest such a thing?

 

We got married so I could get on his insurance. 

Just for information!😂

You could safely get divorced and stay publicly insured ( though with your own public contract and payments.)

 

This has been a public service announcement!😂😂

[Gambatte 552]

On 1/16/2021, 3:51:48, Bobbyhall said:

Quite curious as to how many people have gotten married to stay in Germany now. 
 

Surely there has to be some sort of partner visa, like in Australia.

Fair enough. But then, what's the difference between married and partner?

If the "partner status" is recognized legally in a society, why don't we simply call it marriage?

[El Jeffo 41,142]

4 minutes ago, Gambatte said:

Fair enough. But then, what's the difference between married and partner?

If the "partner status" is recognized legally in a society, why don't we simply call it marriage?

Because German law doesn't recognize domestic partnerships, except in the case of homosexual couples and when calculating welfare entitlements.

 

Under German law, no matter how long you cohabitate with your partner, you are not afforded the same rights (from immigration to taxation) as married couples. If you want to enjoy those rights, you have to get legally married.

 

Hence the chorus of voices in this thread suggesting that avenue as a potential solution.

[Gambatte 552]

3 minutes ago, El Jeffo said:

Because German law doesn't recognize domestic partnerships, except in the case of homosexual couples and when calculating welfare entitlements.

 

Under German law, no matter how long you cohabitate with your partner, you are not afforded the same rights (from immigration to taxation) as married couples.

 

Fine, but then you could say the concept of "legal partnership" is already present in Germany, it's called "marriage".

Wrong?

 

[El Jeffo 41,142]

6 minutes ago, Gambatte said:

 

Fine, but then you could say the concept of "legal partnership" is already present in Germany, it's called "marriage".

Wrong?

 

Yes, wrong.

 

German family law is still deeply rooted in the 19th century definitions. A marriage is a marriage and a partnership is a simple matter of cohabitation. The latter affords absolutely no additional civil rights whatsoever.

[Gambatte 552]

Of course I agree "cohabitation" is not equivalent to marriage. But, in the countries where the concept of  "legal partnership" exist and is recognized by the state, what is the difference there between marriage and legal partnership? Why the heck should a country/state bother to establish the concept of "legal partnership" at all? I think this already exists, it's just called marriage.

[cb6dba 7,225]

Say you have an accident and they want to to turn of the life support machine.

If you are married, your partner makes the call.

As far as I was told, if you are not married, they will call your next of kin. Which cold be (for us) in another country with a language barrier. 

If you die unmarried, I'm not sure your partner gets to inherit your part of the house, I was also told that next of kin get it.

 

All this could be wrong mind.

 

As I say in all things legal, don't assume it works like you think it does, even if what you think is logical.

 

[Gambatte 552]

12 minutes ago, El Jeffo said:

A marriage is a marriage

OK

 

12 minutes ago, El Jeffo said:

a partnership is a simple matter of cohabitation.

But cohabitation is not partnership. 

 

12 minutes ago, El Jeffo said:

The latter affords absolutely no additional civil rights whatsoever.

Agree.

[Gambatte 552]

15 minutes ago, cb6dba said:

Say you have an accident and they want to to turn of the life support machine.

If you are married, your partner makes the call.

As far as I was told, if you are not married, they will call your next of kin. Which cold be (for us) in another country with a language barrier. 

If you die unmarried, I'm not sure your partner gets to inherit your part of the house, I was also told that next of kin get it.

 

All this could be wrong mind.

 

As I say in all things legal, don't assume it works like you think it does, even if what you think is logical.

 

Fair enough. But throughout your life, before the accident or death, you are always in control, whom/when to make your family member.

If you want another person to inherit your house or whatever, you simply marry this person. What's missing?

[fraufruit 37,661]

A will.

[El Jeffo 41,142]

28 minutes ago, fraufruit said:

A will.

Yes, but then the inheritance tax will be a bitch - the exemption amount for spouses is €500,000. The exemption amount for random people is just €20,000.

 

If you inherit a house worth €1,000,000 from a total stranger, you'll be expected to pay tax on €980,000 of it.

[Gambatte 552]

But you know this beforehand and can control it. If you want a specific person  to inherit your house and not to pay more rather than less tax, you marry the person.

What's missing?