Relocating to Munich from San Francisco; looking for advice

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19 hours ago, GoldenLizard said:

If anyone is coming from the USA, know that there is a Covid test done at the airport. I had pre-registered so just needed to show my QR code, and was taken to the testing area.

 

Hi, and welcome!

So did you preregister in the US for a test at Munich airport? How did you do that?

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9 hours ago, Metall said:

 

Hi, and welcome!

So did you preregister in the US for a test at Munich airport? How did you do that?

 

Yes, I did pre- register for the test while I was in the US, but I did so by visiting the link on Munich Airport website.

The exact link to register is https://form.ecolog-international.com/

 

And no, there is no option to register while on the plane. However, one can take a test without pre-registration, just that it will take time to enter data on site. Going by the number of passengers flying, that time would not be much.

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On 10/10/2020, 22:31:15, engelchen said:

Were you able to find a school for your kids?

 

Not yet. Its been a mind-numbing first few days. I am told that school search can start once you have a house. But even before that I needed to get the Anmeldung done, and then start the work for a residence permit. Have been told that schools are good in Bogenhausen, Schwabing in the city. Last weekend I did a bit of tour of the city: starting from Marienplatz to Lehel to Bogenhausen to Garching to Schwabing and back to Moosach. Liked Bogenhausen, Englschalking and Garching; so thinking of evaluating the schools there and then hunt for houses in the vicinity. Almost everyone I met tells me thats the wrong way to go; most people say go for any house you get and settle for the neighbourhood school - so difficult is it it to find apartments here.

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2 hours ago, GoldenLizard said:

Almost everyone I met tells me thats the wrong way to go; most people say go for any house you get and settle for the neighbourhood school - so difficult is it it to find apartments here.

 

I agree!

Do you have a job or reliable income? Do you speak German? What kind of residency do you have? How much rent (plus lots of utilities etc.) are you willing to pay? How much *more* rent can you pay if you push it?

You need to have all this information available to pull up at any time while *immediately, priority number 1, full time, desperately* looking for a place to live in the most crowded and expensive town in Germany!

 

You are a foreigner with no German credit score (Schufa), that makes it even harder.

 

Will your company/relocation service help with finding an apartment? That would be really good.

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20 minutes ago, Metall said:

 

I agree!

Do you have a job or reliable income? Do you speak German? What kind of residency do you have? How much rent (plus lots of utilities etc.) are you willing to pay? How much *more* rent can you pay if you push it?

You need to have all this information available to pull up at any time while *immediately, priority number 1, full time, desperately* looking for a place to live in the most crowded and expensive town in Germany!

 

You are a foreigner with no German credit score (Schufa), that makes it even harder.

 

Will your company/relocation service help with finding an apartment? That would be really good.

 

I like to think I have a reliable job; have been working in this company for 17 years now. I have yet to apply for a residency, but have been told that I can apply for an EU Blue Card. My company has arranged for a relocation service who is handling the email communication with the real estate agents who are advertising houses/apartments. You are right about the German schufa; its a pity I cannot benefit from my great USA credit score.

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27 minutes ago, GoldenLizard said:

You are right about the German schufa; its a pity I cannot benefit from my great USA credit score.

Why not? Bring it along!

The landlord will try to understand if you are reliable. Just add your USA credit score report to the pile of papers, along with your contract. They will probably want to see your contract. You can also leave you bosses' contact for them to confirm your data.

Bring as much stuff as possible and have everything read. I got my house by being the first to call for a visit and having all proper documentation ready. I sent it all 30minutes after the advertisement went up. I set up an email alert on immoscout.

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It sounds like you have a relocation company helping? they should be guiding you on this as well as amending, visa etc. You mentioned they think you can get a blue card? I would have hoped this was vetted before you came, like your degree, position, salary all of that to ensure you can get a blue card. Before you can legally work you either must have the blue card in process  or have a regular work visa that could have been issued before departing the usa. What do you currently have? In my case I requested a normal work visa from the  German consulate in usa before leaving as the blue card can only be processed in Germany and it takes time to get the appointment's. Since I had a work visa issued in USA  I could work as soon as I landed. In either case the relocation support company usually arranges and escorts you to these appointments. If I recall they also wanted my apartment contract  for this appointment, which I used the temporary housing one.. cant remember the order as it was a long time ago., 

 

If you are in temporary housing you should be registering this address now to have a ameldung...which is usually needed along with blue card to open bank account and pretty much anything you do. once you find permanent housing you just register the new address for a new ameldung.

when I came we had a really worthless guy working as our contact from the relo group...he helped with some things but I really had to push this guy and actually called the company to complain as he had another job that was his priority. The visa support company they had was top notch. If you have relo support they should be helping with lots of things, reviewing phone plans, electrical contracts, drivers licenses all of it..but based on your actual contract. Make sure you get what you are supposed to have

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On 15.10.2020, 00:03:31, MikeMelga said:

Just add your USA credit score report to the pile of papers, along with your contract. They will probably want to see your contract. You can also leave you bosses' contact for them to confirm your data.

Bring as much stuff as possible and have everything read.

 

On 15.10.2020, 09:27:55, lunasuenos said:

It sounds like you have a relocation company helping? they should be guiding you on this as well as amending, visa etc. You mentioned they think you can get a blue card? I would have hoped this was vetted before you came, like your degree, position, salary all of that to ensure you can get a blue card.

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If you are in temporary housing you should be registering this address now to have a ameldung...which is usually needed along with blue card to open bank account and pretty much anything you do. once you find permanent housing you just register the new address for a new ameldung.

 

Please follow the advice above, I can confirm it makes a lot of sense!

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On 15/10/2020, 09:27:55, lunasuenos said:

It sounds like you have a relocation company helping? they should be guiding you on this as well as amending, visa etc.

 

They are. Actually the lady is really good and helping out real well.

On 15/10/2020, 09:27:55, lunasuenos said:

I would have hoped this was vetted before you came, like your degree, position, salary all of that to ensure you can get a blue card. Before you can legally work you either must have the blue card in process  or have a regular work visa that could have been issued before departing the usa. What do you currently have?

 

The HR in our company assured I can get a Blue card. I too came on a work visa with a employment contract and am working from the day I arrive. However, to apply for the residence permit the appointment needs to be taken either at the Munich City foreigner office or the Foreigner Office for areas surrounding Munich. The office depends on where one lives. So even though I have an Anmeldung based on temporary living inside the city, if I take my house outside I will need to transfer my file to the other office. So they recommended I wait for applying for for the Foreigner Office appointment till I get my apartment finalized.

On 15/10/2020, 09:27:55, lunasuenos said:

If you have relo support they should be helping with lots of things, reviewing phone plans, electrical contracts, drivers licenses all of it.

 

They really are helping. I am happy so far. But it still doesnt take away the stress of settling down :)

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4 hours ago, GoldenLizard said:

So even though I have an Anmeldung based on temporary living inside the city, if I take my house outside I will need to transfer my file to the other office. So they recommended I wait for applying for for the Foreigner Office appointment till I get my apartment finalized.

 

I hate to say it, but that is dangerous nonsense!

You MUST register at your current (albeit) temporary address within two weeks, or face a fine.

https://www.focus.de/immobilien/praxistipps/wohnsitz-ummelden-kosten-fristen-bussgelder_id_7418296.html

 

Once you have found your new apartment, you have to reregister.

 

This very obvious fact is Life In Germany 101 - I'm starting to think your relocation assistance maybe isn't so great.

 

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Another issue is that without the blue card you might not be allowed to work. We just sent a new guy home without salary because he messed up his blue card application.

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1 hour ago, Metall said:

You MUST register at your current (albeit) temporary address within two weeks, or face a fine.

 

5 hours ago, GoldenLizard said:

I have an Anmeldung based on temporary living inside the city

 

Which is the correct thing to do. His relocation people are trying to keep his life simple as well as lawful, which is a high calling indeed in Germany. 

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21 hours ago, kiplette said:

 

 

Which is the correct thing to do. His relocation people are trying to keep his life simple as well as lawful, which is a high calling indeed in Germany. 

 

Exactly! I guess I didn't put it across clearly. 

 

I have got my Anmeldung based on my temporary accommodation last week. After that we were focused on getting an apartment. Earlier today, this has been confirmed. Now we will re-register the Anmeldung for this address once the lease contract is drawn up. Once this is done, we will apply for my kids' school and in parallel get an appointment at the Foreigner's office for getting a residence permit.

 

Regarding @MikeMelga's observation, my understanding is that I can work on my D visa which is valid for the next few months. I need to get an appointment for the residence permit (Blue Card) before that visa expires. And the Foreigner office will be based on the jurisdiction of the apartment I finalized.

 

Thanks everyone for your concerns and making sure I consider all aspects, and conform to all rules. (e.g. I was not aware of the 2 week rule for Anmeldung, but looks like my relo agency had it covered.)

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12 hours ago, kiplette said:

 

Yay! So glad. That was fast.

 

Indeed I had heard horror stories of finding an apartment. My relo agent wrote to about 10 flats we shortlisted, got replies and viewing appointments from 2, and we liked 1 for which fortunately we were selected. We had to compromise, however, coz the house has 2 parking spots (for which we pay additional) but right now have no car and intend to have eventually only one car. The hope is that we can rent out one spot.

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The additional parking spot is a very small price to pay for finding an apartment so quickly! Well done by you and your relocation assistance (I take back what I said previously :) ).

I think an agent armed with all sorts of documentation (visa, work contract, payroll etc.) is in very good position to get a rental quickly. Getting an offer out of only ten contacted landlords is close to a miracle in Munich (people usually contact fifty or a hundred!).

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What kind of garage is it? You may want to use the other part for storage - bicycles, etc. if it is enclosed and not one of those lift thingies. If not, surely you can rent it out. Another question for your agent.

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