Kicked out of Karstadt because of Manga naked-lady t-shirt

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So I walk into Karstadt yesterday to pick up something and walk past the security guard who's checking if people are wearing masks.
But after a few seconds he walks after me, stops me and pointing at my t-shirt says "This is not ok". I didn't even know what he's talking about out until he says "The girl. It's a picture of young girl naked. It's not ok". To which I reply: "First of all it's not a young girl, it's just a girl, and it's a drawing (Manga). It's a drawing on a naked girl, what's the problem with that?" He says: "You can't wear that in Germany". At this point I'm getting pretty annoyed and I'm like "Sorry but are you the Police? What authority do you have to tell me that I can't wear this?"  He says he's not the police (obv.) and gets his radio thingy to call more security. So I just tell him he's a dick and leave cause I'm not in the mood to deal with it.
 

I'm now wondering if they were indeed entitled to basically kick me out of the store because of this t-shirt. I mean I find it absurd but it could very possibly be that by law they were indeed entitled... or if the guy just thought it was gross and took upon himself to enforce his own decency laws.

Would be very interesting to know, regardless of what people personally think of spotting a vagina themed shirt, as that's not really the point ;-)

 

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I don’t agree with the security guard legally but the pic is kiddie porn to me and is in very poor taste. I wouldn’t wear it.

No, I ain’t a prude.

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I personally don't think it's a kid or I wouldn't wear it obviously, it's a manga, girls often look like that. But anyways, I get it that some people wouldn't wear it anyways, I mean each his own. Of course I don't really have any intention to go around offending anyone and it's my opinion that nudity is not offensive.

But again, it's not relevant what my opinion is, just wondering what the law says and if they were indeed entitled to ask me to leave the store. I don't expect the law to necessarily reflect my personal opinions ;-) That's why I've posted this in the legal section.

 

 

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Or I mean could also just be store policy? I really don't know but it's an interesting topic.
Even if I was to agree the shirt is gross and shouldn't be worn, still, could it be worn in a store without been harassed?

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I went to the Vatican with a Slayer t-shirt with pentagrams and such crap.  I was told I couldn't go it with it, so I wore it inside out.  End of the story because I have common sense.

 

PS. We were not planing on going there that day.

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2 hours ago, Krieg said:

End of the story because I have common sense.

Sorry but does this imply I don't because I've posted here about it?

I'm not winging btw, just curious to understand what's allowed and what isn't, I don't think that's especially weird... since someone told me "you can't wear that in Germany".

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18 minutes ago, stevekerr said:

Sorry but does this imply I don't because I've posted here about it?

I'm not winging btw, just curious to understand what's allowed and what isn't, I don't think that's especially weird... since someone told me "you can't wear that in Germany".

My guess is that it depends of the judge thinks it tantamount to being a public nuisance (öffentliches Ärgerniss). If I was the judge you'd get fined.

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The question is, why do you want to wear it? Sounds as though you want to be a provocative ass-hole, so you should be pleased in a successful outcome.

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1 minute ago, Dr Jock said:

The question is, why do you want to wear it? Sounds as though you want to be a provocative ass-hole, so you should be pleased in a successful outcome.

That's not question at all. Doesn't matter if I want or not. Also calm down with your assumptions I have no intention to be a provocative ass-hole.

The question is: am I allowed to wear it?

Isn't this the legal section of the forum?

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8 minutes ago, jeba said:

My guess is that it depends of the judge thinks it tantamount to being a public nuisance (öffentliches Ärgerniss). If I was the judge you'd get fined.

Thanks, this is more the kind of answer I was looking for.

Not about if you think it's ok or not, also not about what I think.

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I'm not quite sure what you think your recourse would be?  Going to sue them?  Call the cops on them?  Not shop there anymore and take your business elsewhere?  Change your shirt?  Would you wear your inoffensive shirt to family Christmas dinner?

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4 hours ago, fraufruit said:

Looks like kiddie porn to me. I find it offensive.  Just my opinion. 

And mine. And if it is the opinion of those running the site, it shouldn't even appear on this web-page and should/might be removed. I've reported it.

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Yup, agree with the security. Should have called the cops, Methinks they would like to take a closer look at your harddrives.

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