Posted 14 Apr 2020 Good morning to everybody, I just wanted to have an help to understand if I am doing things correctly also because my German is not so good and I fear to make a mess... I am nearly 5 months pregnant and at the beginning of March I tried to register my future child to the public crèche (https://kitafinder.muenchen.de/elternportal/) for the next March, so that I could come back to work asap. On the 1st April I have received and automatic reply, stating that the allocation process is not completed and that commitments will continue to be made. If I check all the kitas in which I registered, they state that they have only waiting lists with no or few places available. I just wanted to know if any additional input is requested from my side now, or if I have to wait until I receive a message from any of the kitas. Consider that I have also a very weird family situation, since my husband is not even resident in Germany, and (mainly for economic reasons) I would like to come back to work full-time asap. Sincerely I don' t know which are the requirements to get a place... maybe I have done the registration too late, but before March I was not able to do the registration since the child was too young. Any suggestion? Do I have to register him/her to a private kita??? Many thanks for your help. PS. I would like to understand I have to thick the option: "Der/die Sorgeberechtigte ist derzeit aktuell berufstätig, in einer Ausbildung, einem Studium oder besucht einen Integrationskurs. " or "Der/die Sorgeberechtigte plant die (Wieder-)Aufnahme einer Berufstätigkeit, Ausbildung, eines Studiums oder Integrationskurses.", and then insert a day? I am very confused... 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 14 Apr 2020 Hi Angy, Congratulations on your pregnancy! I hope you are doing well. The Kita system can be confusing, I can recommend using the search function and search for Kita / Kita Finder as there are some threads here already covering some of your topics. Few specific points: - The Kita year begins in September and all spots are allocated from September. The application deadline for a September 2020 start was beginning of April 2020 (I think). The actual start date varies, depending on when your child does the settling in period "Eingewöhnung". For example, in our Kita there were 10 new children and they began from August to November. - The Kitas will all be busy filling their spots for children to start in September. Some parents will have received confirmations already, some may not receive any, some may receive some in a few months. - As you want your child to start in March, your start date is outside of the "normal" Kita year. According to Kita Finder, applications for start dates outside the normal year can be made anytime, with no deadline. However, getting a spot to start in March will very much be on an ad-hoc basis, if a Kita ends up randomly with a free spot (e.g. family moves away, they open up a new group). - Note that the Eingewöhnung period is a minimum of two weeks, sometimes up to several months! On the first day the child stays for 30-60min with you there as well, then this time increases and includes periods when you leave the child with the teachers. Maybe by the end of the first week the child stays for a couple of hours by themselves. But do not expect them to be there for a full day without you for several weeks (I know some people for who it took months...). So you should factor this in as well as if you want to start work in March, then you will need to start the Eingewöhung in February already. Maybe if you are going back to work full time your husband could do the Eingewöhnung instead of you. - I guess your baby will be 6-7 months when you want them to start Kita? I originally looked for Kita options for my daughter to start in April at 7 months old but found that most Kitas near me would not accept children under 12 months (many will not do bottles, puree food etc.). Some Kitas will take children under 12 months but I find most Kitas are not set up for this. Some I spoke to would have maximum of one baby under 12 months. - Requirements for getting a Kita spot feel a bit opaque, but priority is given to single parents, where both parents are working full time, or if a child already has a sibling at the Kita. If your husband is not in Germany (so you are considered a single parent) you may have priority, not sure. Any suggestions.... well finding a Kita spot in Munich is really tough! I would definitely contact private Kitas, they will be expensive but maybe more flexible with taking younger babies and with different start dates. Kita Finder only lists government funded Kitas but there are parent-run Kitas (Eltern Initiatives) and private Kitas not included in the Kita Finder. You could also consider Tagesmutter, which is a person looking after 3-5 kids in their home as they may be more flexible with start date and age. Tagesmutter can be found through the council, but it is too early to look for a spot next year. Very few of them offer full time care, however (often four days per week). Otherwise some parents have had success by personally contacting Kitas they are interested in, but our Kita manager said he gets 40 emails a day from interested parents so really cant answer them all and too much contact is annoying. You could always write an email or call the Kitas near you to ask if they take 6-7 month olds. Also start looking at private kitas and consider other childcare options (maybe your husband can be stay at home Dad? Nanny share with other parents?). Good luck! Re. "Der/die Sorgeberechtigte ist derzeit aktuell berufstätig, in einer Ausbildung, einem Studium oder besucht einen Integrationskurs. " or "Der/die Sorgeberechtigte plant die (Wieder-)Aufnahme einer Berufstätigkeit, Ausbildung, eines Studiums oder Integrationskurses.", >>> the only difference is "derzeit" (currently) and "plant die (Wieder-)Aufnahme" (you plan to start work / school) again. So I guess in your situation you would cross the second option, and say that you are starting work again full time in March. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 14 Apr 2020 One other tip would be see if there are any new Kitas being built in your area or near your work as they might not be in Kita finder and will not start taking kids until next year. Also ask your work if they have any kind of support or maybe they even have their own Kitas 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 14 Apr 2020 2 hours ago, angychan said: PS. I would like to understand I have to thick the option: "Der/die Sorgeberechtigte ist derzeit aktuell berufstätig, in einer Ausbildung, einem Studium oder besucht einen Integrationskurs. " or "Der/die Sorgeberechtigte plant die (Wieder-)Aufnahme einer Berufstätigkeit, Ausbildung, eines Studiums oder Integrationskurses.", and then insert a day? I am very confused... that's easy: are you currently employed, in training/school/college, or participating in an integration course? - that would be option 1 or are you currently not doing anything other than being pregnant, but plan on finding employment, or enrolling in some kind of education, or going to that integration course? - that would be option 2, and the projected start date of the job/school/course. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 15 Apr 2020 22 hours ago, SophG said: - Note that the Eingewöhnung period is a minimum of two weeks, sometimes up to several months! On the first day the child stays for 30-60min with you there as well, then this time increases and includes periods when you leave the child with the teachers. Maybe by the end of the first week the child stays for a couple of hours by themselves. But do not expect them to be there for a full day without you for several weeks (I know some people for who it took months...). So you should factor this in as well as if you want to start work in March, then you will need to start the Eingewöhung in February already. Maybe if you are going back to work full time your husband could do the Eingewöhnung instead of you. Thanks, I didn't know about that! I'll take this period in consideration! 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 15 Apr 2020 21 hours ago, karin_brenig said: that's easy: are you currently employed, in training/school/college, or participating in an integration course? - that would be option 1 or are you currently not doing anything other than being pregnant, but plan on finding employment, or enrolling in some kind of education, or going to that integration course? - that would be option 2, and the projected start date of the job/school/course. I understood the meaning of the two sentences. However, at the moment of course I am not in maternity leave, so I chose the option 1. But I don't know if I have to consider option 2 since I will be in elternzeit when the child should start. This is why I am confused. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 15 Oct 2021 Does it matter for the priority if a parent is working 38,5h or 40h? Meaning will the system assign the higher priority for an available space for the parent with 40h per week? 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 15 Oct 2021 No, since both 38,5 and 40 h are considered as full-time. There are other factors as well leading to higher priority or not. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 16 Oct 2021 15 hours ago, LukeSkywalker said: No, since both 38,5 and 40 h are considered as full-time. There are other factors as well leading to higher priority or not. Is there somewhere an official or unofficial list of those factors? 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
