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1 hour ago, pappnase said:

Even so it will take months before it is known how effective it is.

 

... and longer to know about any side-effects.

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5 minutes ago, HEM said:

 

... and longer to know about any side-effects.

Dead people don´t care about side effects. They will probably give it first to critical patients or patients with underlying conditions. A general population vaccine will probably take longer.

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58 minutes ago, MikeMelga said:

Dead people don´t care about side effects. They will probably give it first to critical patients or patients with underlying conditions. A general population vaccine will probably take longer.

Wrong. They're giving it to non-symptomatic volunteers. In this stage of the testing, it's about insuring that the vaccine candidate is intrinsically safe and doesn't have any serious side effects. Actual testing as to whether the vaccine is effective at all will begin several months later. You'd know that if you'd read pappnase's link.

 

In other news, proving that every cloud has a silver lining, the Eurovision song contest has been canceled due to coronavirus.

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You do not give the vaccine to people who already have the virus!

 

You give it to healthy people, they then get immunity to the virus and can go about as if nothing had happened

 

Giving millions of people an untested vaccine, can lead to lots of people having problems.

 

Of course, there is massive pressure to vaccinate large numbers of people, and maybe the pressure will become too great and it is done. But normally its better to test and see how well it works and what the side effects are, before you give it to the mass of people 

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With all the chattering classes claiming that the question of herd immunity and potential repeats of the epidemic are Totally New! and Never Seen Before!...

 

... isn’t there a good reliable article out there based on the many, many previous (and some recent) epidemics? Did sars, Ebola, Spanish flu recurr? Are there signs of a bounce back in countries that have come through covid yet?

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Still not what's happening in this case, though. Please read the BBC link and find out what's really happening before making more incorrect claims.

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Mike is never wrong.  Even when he brings irrelevant arguments to "prove" he is correct.

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You need to discriminate between active and passive "vaccination". Active vaccines will trigger antibody formation (which takes several days) whereas passive vaccines contain antibodies which work almost instantly and can be given to sick patients as well. Not sure I´d call the latter "vaccination". In German you wouldn´t.

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52 minutes ago, MikeMelga said:

Rabbies was the first vaccine and it can be given after infection.

 

1.  The Rabies vaccine was not the first vaccine.  Not even the 2nd.

 

2.  The Rabies vaccine works after exposure only because the Rabies virus is unique - it affects only the brain, and travels slowly through the body.  There is a small window of time after exposure in which it can be administered.

 

3.  The vaccine is still a vaccine, not a treatment or therapy.  If the victim is already manifesting symptoms of Rabies infection (i.e. the virus has reached the brain), it is too late to administer the vaccine.

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7 minutes ago, oscar 63 said:

 

 

looks like we are getting a ban on all outside movement tonight?

 

 

I don't think so.  According to spiegel.de today, tonight's speech from Merkel is expected to merely be confirmation of the restrictions that most states / municipalities put into place today, which do not include restrictions on movement.

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I really hate to say it, but a town in Bavaria (near Ingolstadt) has declared a curfew.

No details as of now.

Das Landratsamt Tirschenreuth hat wegen der Verbreitung des Coronavirus für die Stadt Mitterteich eine Ausgangssperre verhängt. Es ist die erste Stadt in Bayern mit einer solchen Maßnahme. Sie soll bis zum 2. April dauern, wie die Behörde mitteilte.

 

The District Office of Tirschenreuth has imposed a curfew on the town of Mitterteich because of the spread of the coronavirus. It is the first town in Bavaria to take such a measure. It is to last until April 2, according to the authorities.

 

https://www.stern.de/gesundheit/coronavirus--tirschenreuth-verhaengt-als-erste-stadt-in-bayern-ausgangssperre-9186240.html

 

Also, the radio is blaring a lot of stuff about the bad, bad people daring to go out.

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Restrictions across the country are very uneven - for instance, Mainz ordered that playgrounds be closed yesterday.  Berlin's are apparently still open. 

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someone must have had a real warm, fuzzy feeling inside when they went around the spielplatzs of Leipzig this afternoon, liberally wrapping OUT OF BOUNDS red and white tape around all the children's play areas :lol:

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