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Read this today about how the coronavirus may have been caused. It is awful. Our governments need to pressurise the Chinese government to ban wet markets. Not only are they unhygienic and inhumane, they are a breeding ground for disease. (see links below)

 

https://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/opinion/wildlife-trade-caused-coronavirus-vaccine-fix-200409143748604.html

 

https://www.businessinsider.com/wuhan-coronavirus-chinese-wet-market-photos-2020-1?r=DE&IR=T

 

 

 

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18 minutes ago, Anna66 said:

Read this today about how the coronavirus may have been caused. It is awful. Our governments need to pressurise the Chinese government to ban wet markets. Not only are they unhygienic and inhumane, they are a breeding ground for disease. (see links below)

 

 

I have in my book collection an absolutely brilliant tome called Man and Microbes, written for laypersons, by a man called Arno Karlen.  It was published in 1996, and I bought it when it was released, as Mr. Karlen is an accomplished wordsmith and full of insight.  In the final chapter of his book, Mr. Karlen analyzed agricultural and animal husbandry practices in China, and predicted that these practices would result in the next big killer pandemic originating in China, caused by a zoonotic microbe.

 

So, no one can say there wasn't knowledge of this, and there weren't warnings. 

 

https://www.amazon.com/Man-Microbes-Disease-Plagues-History/dp/0684822709

 

 

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49 minutes ago, Anna66 said:

Read this today about how the coronavirus may have been caused. It is awful. Our governments need to pressurise the Chinese government to ban wet markets. Not only are they unhygienic and inhumane, they are a breeding ground for disease. (see links below)

 

I doubt the PRC will accept pressure or responsibility, they even got real upset when anyone referred to it as the Chinese virus or flu!

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35 minutes ago, Space Cowboy said:

 

I have in my book collection an absolutely brilliant tome called Man and Microbes, written for laypersons, by a man called Arno Karlen.  It was published in 1996, and I bought it when it was released, as Mr. Karlen is an accomplished wordsmith and full of insight.  In the final chapter of his book, Mr. Karlen analyzed agricultural and animal husbandry practices in China, and predicted that these practices would result in the next big killer pandemic originating in China, caused by a zoonotic microbe.

 

So, no one can say there wasn't knowledge of this, and there weren't warnings. 

 

https://www.amazon.com/Man-Microbes-Disease-Plagues-History/dp/0684822709

 

 

 

Thanks for that. I will check that out. Looks like an interesting read!

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5 hours ago, jeremytwo said:

Trump called out the China Virus at his State of the Union speech when Nancy Pelosi was ripping up his speech. He also shut the borders before anyone thought saving thousands of lives, which Sleepy Joe called "xenophpobic". 

 

Here is a montage of what the MSM said during that time:

 

He has absolute power over all States as per the Constitution.

 

"Six o clock can be deadly".

 

 

 

 

 

 

As someone who has family sick in NY in the hospital, with one member already dead, go to hell with your misinformation. Have a little respect for other people. Go talk about it on a Fox or Trump board and have a little respect for people who have said over and over again this is incorrect. Go put yourself with “people.” That’s where you belong. 

 

Conspiracy theories are crazy and we all know they are untrue. So have some common decency and be a human and have respect for families going through this. The last thing that a family member needs to hear that they are cutting medical funding, so go away! 

 

Mods can this person please be banned? It wouldn’t be the first time would it? 

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He wont get banned!!   Dessa has already said it... 

 

Putting him on ignore is one option... but as the forums software doesnt funtion as it should do, if people quote him.. its there for all to see and also in the "Latest activity" too..

 

If EdBob pulled his finger out and fixed the bug or asked the software developers to fix it... J² wouldnt have an audience to sing to!

 

The alternatives are that we all log out and forget TT... 

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@SpiderPig

 

Surely it goes against some of this in the TOS: https://www.toytowngermany.com/forum/topic/231631-new-terms-of-use-of-tt/

 

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I would think political propaganda would fit into that and also the harassment that people have asked him to stop. 

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Yes... it the mods stuck to all those guide lines, then they could close TT down tonight!

 

BUT, if you dont like it... then simply click on your Profile... then at the botom it says "Sign out"...

 

It is that simple... 

 

you choose to come back here... NO ONE forces you...   Maybe you suffer from FOMO...

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1 minute ago, SpiderPig said:

Yes... it the mods stuck to all those guide lines, then they could close TT down tonight!

 

BUT, if you dont like it... then simply click on your Profile... then at the boton it says "Sign out"...

 

It is that simple... 

 

you choose to come back here... NO ONE forces you...   Maybe you suffer from FOMO...

 

No, no FOMO. I come here because I have a lot of time on my hands right now and have not had actual contact with someone as I live alone. The rest of the stuff posted in this thread is usually informative for things that I have gone through during my time in Germany. 

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30 minutes ago, klingklang77 said:

Mods can this person please be banned? It wouldn’t be the first time would it? 

 

A few posts ago, dessa says here: https://www.toytowngermany.com/forum/topic/386478-coronavirus/?do=findComment&comment=3817383 that he will not be banned and if you don't like his posts, just put him on ignore.

 

You can ignore users by going to your profile on the top right, clicking on "Ignored users" and adding his user name.

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I say, chaps, this all seems to be wandering off from the topic title.  All we need now is the j2 to add some of his favourite twitter posts of Michelle Obama's penis and testicles to complete this.

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And Editor Bob said we should not quote such posts, as it only reactivates them.

In other news, there's this. I wish all supermarkets would put up such a notice, everywhere.

 

 

gloves.jpg

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6 minutes ago, arunadasi said:

And Editor Bob said we should not quote such posts, as it only reactivates them.

In other news, there's this. I wish all supermarkets would put up such a notice, everywhere.

 

Your reasoning being?

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2 hours ago, yesterday said:

No do as @dessa_dangerous says, show him were the error of thinking is - that's the whole point of this site, to debate and provide greater clarity on what people write here 

 

It doesn't work because he is actually trying to do that to us.   He thinks he is enlighten and he is trying to get us out of the darkness we live in.

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2 hours ago, fraufruit said:

 

That will only work if everyone does it except for his 2 buddies who won't.

 

...and people stop quoting him.

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21 minutes ago, snowingagain said:

Your reasoning being?

 

Gloves don't work, but people still wear them.

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20 minutes ago, snowingagain said:

Your reasoning being?

That itßs pointless. Assume you touch something which is contaminated with your gloves, then your gloves will be contaminated as well and smear it on to the next item you touch just as your hands would if you weren´t wearing gloves. When you strip them off you have an additional chance of contaminating your hands by touching their outside. Imagine someone doesn´r wash/disinfect their hands because they think it´s not necessary since they had been wearing gloves and here we go...

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3 minutes ago, jeba said:

That itßs pointless. Assume you touch something which is contaminated with your gloves, then your gloves will be contaminated as well and smear it on to the next item you touch just as your hands would if you weren´t wearing gloves. When you strip them off you have an additional chance of contaminating your hands by touching their outside. Imagine someone doesn´r wash/disinfect their hands because they think it´s not necessary since they had been wearing gloves and here we go...

 

I think gloves can be good.  My late father observed that whenever washing up with gloves his nose itched.  I find they remind you not to touch your face.  When you take them off and put in wash, or throw away, of course you need to wash your hands.  I think in this way, they are good in public transport situations and shops.

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3 minutes ago, arunadasi said:

 

Gloves don't work, but people still wear them.

 

Gloves work, when used correctly.  But most people use them wrongly, yes.

 

If I see that sign at the door of a shop I would proceed to ask where I can wash my hands, if they do not provide a sink and soap then I would shop somewhere else.

 

To me it is the same people who said you do not need hand sanitizer, you just have to wash your hands, like everyone carries a sink and soap around.

 

Or even better, governments and organizations telling people they just have to wash their hands, forgetting that 1/4 of the population do not have running water.

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I used to wear gloves when I went shopping. I found it almost impossible to regulate. You get your stuff, queue up, then you have to pay -- get out your card, still wearing gloves? If you had to take them off and wash hands at the exit, then what? You still have the trolley and your stuff in it to pack in the car.
So I just kept them on till I get home.  Now I don't bother, don't wear gloves, drive home, put down the groceries, wash hands, and wash all the groceries in the kitchen. Also taking off shoes outside flat door, and wiping down everything I touched in the car: steering wheel, levers, hand brake, outside door handles, seat belt. That should do it.  I hope.
I also wipe down my phone and purse and  card, car keys, house keys, etc.

 

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