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So to carry on then.

 

FFS WTF is wrong with people in the UK! Europe is in lockdown, the government in the UK 'advises' people to not socialise so they all go out to the seaside and on top of that Tesco's in Dudley do early opening for Health Workers to allow them to get stuff and the entitled selfish, mentally challenged abuse this act of kindness.

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-birmingham-51998512

 

This is really challenging my patriotism and pride in being British.

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7 minutes ago, arunadasi said:

 

 

Here's your answer!

Not finished obviously but being progressively hidden.

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7 minutes ago, French bean said:

So to carry on then.

 

FFS WTF is wrong with people in the UK! Europe is in lockdown, the government in the UK 'advises' people to not socialise so they all go out to the seaside and on top of that Tesco's in Dudley do early opening for Health Workers to allow them to get stuff and the entitled selfish, mentally challenged abuse this act of kindness.

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-birmingham-51998512

 

This is really challenging my patriotism and pride in being British.

Unfortunately an idiotic few are putting the rest of us who are following guidelines at risk

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17 minutes ago, French bean said:

So to carry on then.

 

FFS WTF is wrong with people in the UK! Europe is in lockdown, the government in the UK 'advises' people to not socialise so they all go out to the seaside and on top of that Tesco's in Dudley do early opening for Health Workers to allow them to get stuff and the entitled selfish, mentally challenged abuse this act of kindness.

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-birmingham-51998512

 

This is really challenging my patriotism and pride in being British.

I always hear complaints that the Germans don't form queues (when it is not necessary) and I don't see a queue here (where it is advisable)

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Just read that France is threatening to blockade the UK if they don' get the virus under control! 

 

What worries me far more than the virus itself is the economic impact. I'm hearing references to a depression era contraction in the economy. Upwards of 25% which is friggen massive, like driving into a brick wall at 60 MPH! Airline are talking about shutting down 90% of their fleet, so it won't just be pilots and stewardess being laid off but airline mechanics and even the people who sell over priced water in the airport. A lot will depend on how government act. Denmark is talking about subsidizing wages for business, at a cost of around 10% of GDP. These are insane numbers. The US is talking about a 1.5 trillion dollar bailout right now. In the US a lot will depend on whether the Dems can grow a back bone and actually fight for the little guy or as always simply hand the baton over the Tea Party. 

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48 minutes ago, French bean said:

So to carry on then.

 

FFS WTF is wrong with people in the UK! Europe is in lockdown, the government in the UK 'advises' people to not socialise so they all go out to the seaside and on top of that Tesco's in Dudley do early opening for Health Workers to allow them to get stuff and the entitled selfish, mentally challenged abuse this act of kindness.

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-birmingham-51998512

 

This is really challenging my patriotism and pride in being British.

 

This seems to be absolute stupidity, the only explanation I can think of is that people in the UK do not believe the assurances they have been given that there is enough for everyone. Or perhaps, faced regularly with empty shelves in supermarkets, people know by experience that the assurances don't put food on the table!

Otherwise it just makes no sense!

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If you think things are bad in Europe, this is just some problems we have back at home:

 

- Our currency is down, price from imported goods went up

- Because of the above plenty of items are more expensive

- A short lockdown was announced in some cities and a lot of idiots went for holidays out of the cities spreading the virus around

- The lockdown was now extended to a couple of weeks and the idiots vacationing are crying they can't go home

- Jail riots, about 30 to 50 deaths

- Food getting scarce in supermarkets

- Riots stealing food from supermarkets

- People getting mugged outside of supermarkets in order to steal what they bought

- Plenty of people losing their jobs and no security net. 

- 40% of the workers have informal jobs.

- ICU in the private hospitals are 10x than the ones in public hospitals (only the upper class has access to private hospitals)

- Plenty of people not following instructions and thinking this is just the flu.

 

And much more problems.  So this is going to be very bad in the third world countries.  If the government loses control it will be literally war on the streets.

 

P.S., and of course, there is no toilet paper.

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Hey guys, is there any reason that a Grundschule should be open today? I just walked the dog and saw about six kids and a teacher on the playground. When she saw me, she took all the kids inside the building and started yelling for the kids to maintain their distance from each other. They did not. Maybe this is some special situation for critical workers? Any links are appreciated. I couldn't find anything.

ETA: I found it. 

https://www.sueddeutsche.de/bildung/coronavirus-schulen-kitas-schliessungen-bundeslaender-1.4843350

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5 minutes ago, Krieg said:

If you think things are bad in Europe, this is just some problems we have back at home:

 

Back home being where? No nationality shown on your profile.

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If the kids are children of health workers or children of Teachers...

 

As far as I know, the teachers have to be in school to centralise their "On-line" or remote teaching... 

 

I also beleive that the education authorities have a due responsibillity for the teachers unless they present a sick note to releive the school of responsibillity... 

 

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1 minute ago, SpiderPig said:

If the kids are children of health workers or children of Teachers...

 

 

Yeah, I kind of figured that, too, but they are also for grocery and essentials shops and warehouse workers

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30 minutes ago, Rushrush said:

What worries me far more than the virus itself is the economic impact. I'm hearing references to a depression era contraction in the economy. Upwards of 25% which is friggen massive, like driving into a brick wall at 60 MPH! Airline are talking about shutting down 90% of their fleet, so it won't just be pilots and stewardess being laid off but airline mechanics and even the people who sell over priced water in the airport. A lot will depend on how government act. Denmark is talking about subsidizing wages for business, at a cost of around 10% of GDP. These are insane numbers. The US is talking about a 1.5 trillion dollar bailout right now. In the US a lot will depend on whether the Dems can grow a back bone and actually fight for the little guy or as always simply hand the baton over the Tea Party. 

I think it will be bad on the short term and pretty good on the mid term. Unsure about long term. The economy is being flooded with printed money. People are postponing spending. When lockdown eases down, it will be a spending spree.

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1 minute ago, Keleth said:

Kind of funny how a lot of the essential workers at this moment are the people who`s jobs are normally derided (on here quite often too)and classed as unskilled and the jobs that people think the workers are disposable and anyone can do them.

We have engineers who are apparently vital to the running of their companies (can`t imagine who I`m talking about)sitting at home (rightly so) while people like cleaners,shop assistants,binmen etc are still working to allow these highly important people to stay at home so they can rescue the world when this is all (hopefully) over.

Seriously I hope some people learn some humility from this and learn to respect people that they until now see as below them and not worth their time.

I doubt it but I can hope.

 

 

 

 

I'm hoping it puts an end to celebrity culture, to the worship of these useless people. Anyone seen the video of Madonna making a fool of herself; I think it was posted somewhere.
 

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Everyone needs to stay at home,I`m fortunately on 2 weeks planned stundenabauen at the moment which came along at a fortunate time for me.My firm is still open despite all their customers being closed but apparently as of the 1st April we`re going to be on kurzarbeit but nobody knows whether we will actually close etc.

I`m sitting here with my wife who is high risk due to copd,30% lung capacity,type 1 diabetic and even if I didn`t have my time off at the moment there is probably no way I would go to work.

Nothing is worth risking the death of other people for.

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22 hours ago, dessa_dangerous said:

 

What I find most interesting about this graphic is that it appears to clearly show the virus's "preference" for males across all age groups.  Even infants and small children!

 

Debunking the Just World fallacy-style speculation that the disease disproportionately affects men because more men are smokers in many parts of the world.

eta: not that smoking mayn't have *any* influence--we can see that the biggest jump in the discrepancy pops up around the middle of life, when people might be indeed smoking, and tapers off as they get older, when they might have already quit.  So, who knows.  (My inner married woman sense wonders if it might not also have something to do with the differences between the sexes in diligence.  I have seen my husband wash a dish, clean a surface, and wash his hands ;) joking. kind of.  maybe.)

 

I have been poking around looking for answers to the male vs female thing and just anecdotally, I suspect part of the reason men might be dying at a higher rate is that men wait much longer to seek care than women do, generally.  

 

but the bigger issue might be estrogen.   It's been known for some time that estrogen seems to have a protective effect against flu viruses - here is one of many reports on that:  https://www.aspph.org/johns-hopkins-estrogen-protective-against-flu-virus-in-women-but-not-men-study-suggests/

 

it fits with the max differentials on that chart, too which correlate with female reproductive years.  It doesn't completely explain why children and the elderly aren't more on par with each other especially as some studies indicate older men have higher circulating estrogen levels than post menopausal women do (who are not on hrt of course).  But women's bodies are more tuned to estrogenic effects due to receptor activity and things in that direction so that might be part of it.

 

anyway I thought that was pretty interesting so wanted to throw it out there.

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29 minutes ago, Keleth said:

Kind of funny how a lot of the essential workers at this moment are the people who`s jobs are normally derided (on here quite often too)and classed as unskilled and the jobs that people think the workers are disposable and anyone can do them.

We have engineers who are apparently vital to the running of their companies (can`t imagine who I`m talking about)sitting at home (rightly so) while people like cleaners,shop assistants,binmen etc are still working to allow these highly important people to stay at home so they can rescue the world when this is all (hopefully) over.

Seriously I hope some people learn some humility from this and learn to respect people that they until now see as below them and not worth their time.

I doubt it but I can hope.

 

 


most white collar jobs, bullshit jobs or not, can be done remotely nowadays and with VR exploding it will be even more so. This crisis will in my opinion drive the automatization of our society even more: street cleaning, garbage disposal, package delivering etc can be more safely done in such a crisis by robots and drones than people.

 

even medicine: my wife is doing doubleshifts and at risk partially because the (economic) motivation to automatize medicine to a greater degree hasn’t been there so far. There’s no reason why a MD or a nurse is required to personally talk with a patient and run tests on him. Those things will be automatized.

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2 minutes ago, lisa13 said:

 

I have been poking around looking for answers to the male vs female thing and just anecdotally, I suspect part of the reason men might be dying at a higher rate is

 

I think the virus was women made by genderistas to kill all the "toxic white old men".

Accidentially the virus escaped into the wild before they managed to increase its selectivity to 100men : 1 woman.

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