Posted 13 Jan 2020 Ok, Harry is trying to do the right thing. But I do not believe the UK press will leave him and his family alone from now on. He is an important royal and as such the UK press will follow his life, report any decisions he makes good or bad and continue to take/publish photos of him and his family. I cannot see how he will ever get out of that. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 13 Jan 2020 It's very hard to suffer unpopularity. I can understand why Meghan prefers to live elsewhere than the UK. I think both she and Harry didn't expect the intial popularity turning into hostility. Seems the british yellow press overdid the criticism, which seems to be based mostly on assumptions. I wonder if the press would have been more lenient if Harry's bride was English. Then there's the Internet with all the hate comments etc., which wasn't there during Diana's era. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 13 Jan 2020 I do not think the press would be more lenient if Harry's bride was English. I can still remember sarah ferguson, being called the "duchess of pork" in the 80's or 90's, after having put on a bit of weight. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 13 Jan 2020 3 hours ago, yesterday said: But I do not believe the UK press will leave him and his family alone from now on. He is an important royal and as such the UK press will follow his life, report any decisions he makes good or bad and continue to take/publish photos of him and his family. I cannot see how he will ever get out of that. He has chosen this for himself. He didnt speak to the royals and say look guys I cant take it, Im taking a back seat how can we arrange for me to quietly retire. Instead he went public saying Im off to be a hollywood celeb and live off the susex brand. And he maximised the impact by not telling anyone it was coming so the reaction of the crown was "wtf, erm, no idea we arent prepared". You can say its the right thing, but you can hardly feel sorry for the attention he (or they) get. They arent idiots, they knew what would happen and in fact they are relying on it so they can squeeze the pennies from the publicity. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 13 Jan 2020 There aren't many British royals who haven't been subject to media trashing. Meghan's family certainly added lots of fuel to the fire. Just curious, do other European royals face the same treatment by their country's media? 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 13 Jan 2020 27 minutes ago, zwiebelfisch said: He didnt speak to the royals and say look guys I cant take it, Im taking a back seat how can we arrange for me to quietly retire. It was reported that he talked to his dad about it before Xmas. Of course, I don't trust most of the reporting that pretends they have privy to what goes on behind closed doors. 29 minutes ago, zwiebelfisch said: Instead he went public saying Im off to be a hollywood celeb and live off the susex brand. When did he say that? 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 13 Jan 2020 42 minutes ago, zwiebelfisch said: He has chosen this for himself. He didnt speak to the royals and say look guys I cant take it, Im taking a back seat how can we arrange for me to quietly retire. Instead he went public saying Im off to be a hollywood celeb and live off the susex brand. And he maximised the impact by not telling anyone it was coming so the reaction of the crown was "wtf, erm, no idea we arent prepared". You can say its the right thing, but you can hardly feel sorry for the attention he (or they) get. They arent idiots, they knew what would happen and in fact they are relying on it so they can squeeze the pennies from the publicity. this has been coming for months, there have been reports ( in the press ), of his wife's un happiness, at all the bad things being written about them - they have tried to take the newspapers to court over some of the things that have been written about them!, which again is a big change for the royal family, they never go to court. It would appear, after months of un happiness, that they have had enough, and want to walk away -preying the press will leave them alone in the future.- but they will not - even if they live in Canada. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 13 Jan 2020 Wasn't there also some speculation that Meghan was faking her pregnancy? Where on earth does all this hateful stuff come from? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 13 Jan 2020 17 minutes ago, bramble said: Wasn't there also some speculation that Meghan was faking her pregnancy? Where on earth does all this hateful stuff come from? With the internet all rumours spread fast and crazy stuff gets amplified really fast. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 13 Jan 2020 28 minutes ago, bramble said: Wasn't there also some speculation that Meghan was faking her pregnancy? Where on earth does all this hateful stuff come from? Damn just when you actually want J2 around he`s not here. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 13 Jan 2020 1 hour ago, yesterday said: this has been coming for months, there have been reports ( in the press ), of his wife's un happiness, at all the bad things being written about them - they have tried to take the newspapers to court over some of the things that have been written about them!, which again is a big change for the royal family, they never go to court. Not true. They often just ignore stuff, but have successfully sued before. Kate M got 100,000 euros for topless photos in the NYT. Harry won over publishing of intrusive photos of their home in the Cotswolds. Not the only examples. But Meghan does have some (ex) friends and family back in the USA who are happy to blab shitty stuff about her. Press love that. But the trial will probably shine even more light on the poor relationship she has with her father and possibly reveal more lurid details. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 13 Jan 2020 Whatever had been discussed before internally. The way of publishing it as final via social media when there were no final agreements (including way of putting it and presenting it to public) was well, less than considerate. Publicly ass kicking your parents/inlaws doesnt go down well in any given family. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 13 Jan 2020 18 hours ago, White Rose of Yorkshire said: We also expect them to let us have an insight into ttheir lives. See how Prince William and Catherine share details of the birth of their children, christenings, first day at the Kindergarten etc. You cannot take public money and then exclude the public from your life. I find this such bizarre logic. Like, oh really? It is just media circus. Anything to sell a paper. Harry is not in any real danger of ever having to wear a crown. Is he really "senior" royal? What does "senior" mean? Lilly is to old to do it all, so the kids and grandchildren have to chip in. Sharing the burden, is that what "senior" means? Any minute now there will be a constitutional crisis because Charles will be King. Bet he does not make it to the coronation though. Think about it. Camillagate. You saw it here first. William will be "It" and "senior" royals will become an outdated concept for the next few years. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 13 Jan 2020 From the Queen Quote “My family and I are entirely supportive of Harry and Meghan’s desire to create a new life as a young family. Although we would have preferred them to remain full-time working Members of the Royal Family, we respect and understand their wish to live a more independent life as a family while remaining a valued part of my family. “Harry and Meghan have made clear that they do not want to be reliant on public funds in their new lives. It has therefore been agreed that there will be a period of transition in which the Sussexes will spend time in Canada and the U.K. “These are complex matters for my family to resolve, and there is some more work to be done, but I have asked for final decisions to be reached in the coming days.” This thread can be closed now. No more speculation needed. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 13 Jan 2020 You have to read between the lines here. "Although we would have preferred them to remain full-time working members of the Royal Family…….." The royal we, or majestic plural (pluralis majestatis), is the use of a plural pronoun (or corresponding plural-inflected verb forms) to refer to a single person who is a monarch. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_we Her Majesty didn’t say working members of the Royal Family she said FULL-TIME working members The Queen did not use their titles, she said Harry and Meghan that says it all. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 13 Jan 2020 When Harry was a fairly young child, he was made to walk for miles through the streets of London , behind his mothers coffin, with the world watching, he has now shown a huge middle finger, to the people who forced him to do that. I would do the same. 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 13 Jan 2020 If Prince Harry and Meghan had had half a functioning brain between them, they could have said Megan was suffering from postnatal depression and Prince Harry was taking time out to be with his family. Nobody would have said anything against them and they would have had time to discuss things in depth with the family. To make a public statement like they did against the wishes of the family shows what a self-centered pair they are. The Queen is 93 and Prince Philipp is 98 and not in the best of health. They shouldn’t have to be dealing with things like this at their age. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 14 Jan 2020 Those who defended this somewhat immature woman may wish to reconsider. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
