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And the source is? I take it all this has been of course cross referenced. Ah yes, we're talking Isreali and US special forces, secret services so it is absolutely true, like when they went to the Bar to celebrate after the event, they said to the Barman "We're having a party, we've just wasted a top Iranian General"

 

It all sounds like the sort of stuff that starts of as Chinese Whispers at a Geeks convention.

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Is there anyone who can actually explain in simple terms as to why Trump thinks he can get away with ordering the murder of this guy?

 

What do they have that Trump so desperately needs?

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6 minutes ago, SpiderPig said:

Its say "May have"... but it also May NOT have...     

 

Did you want a possible simple explanation or a prediction?

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Thus cause a huge shit storm...   

 

Thus MAY or MAY NOT cause a huge $h!t storm.    

 

My guess is that there will be a reaction, but nothing remarkable by middle east standards - some explosions and a few dead. 

 

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42 minutes ago, balticus said:

nothing remarkable by middle east standards - some explosions and a few dead.

 

Which is pretty remarkable if your child is one of the few dead. I have friends with kids who are currently deployed over there and in Afghanistan.

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1 hour ago, SpiderPig said:

What do they have that Trump so desperately needs?

The ability to get people out to vote for Trump.Nothing like a good war against brown people to ramp up the right and to make Trump appear tough.

I don`t think anyone is shedding a tear for his death but the way it was done is a bit much.

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More chest thumping and giving away of military secrets -

 

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President Donald Trump said he was ready to make strikes on 52 locations in Iran, including Iranian cultural sites and sites he deemed important to the country, if Tehran continued to threaten the United States.

Trump tweeted the threat on Saturday night after Iran’s leadership vowed to take revenge for the U.S.’s assassination of Maj. Gen. Qassem Soleimani, the commander of Iran’s elite Quds Force and one of the most powerful military figures in the Middle East.

“Iran is talking very boldly about targeting certain USA assets as revenge for our ridding the world of their terrorist leader who had just killed an American, & badly wounded many others, not to mention all of the people he had killed over his lifetime,” Trump wrote.

“Let this serve as a WARNING,” the president added, “that if Iran strikes any Americans, or American assets, we have ... targeted 52 Iranian sites (representing the 52 American hostages taken by Iran many years ago), some at a very high level & important to Iran & the Iranian culture, and those targets, and Iran itself, WILL BE HIT VERY FAST AND VERY HARD. The USA wants no more threats!”

 

 

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Top US military officials presented President Donald Trump with a number of potential responses to Iranian-backed violence in Iraq in recent days, but were stunned when he chose the most radical option, The New York Times reported Saturday evening.

The officials reportedly put the option of killing Maj. Gen. Qassem Soleimani on the table, thinking he wouldn't choose such an extreme solution.

The newspaper reported that it's commonplace for Pentagon officials to present president with extreme solutions so that other options appear more reasonable by comparison.

Though Trump initially rejected the option of assassinating Soleimani on December 28, he grew increasingly furious when Iranian-backed militiamen attacked the US Embassy in Iraq, The Times reported, citing Pentagon and Trump administration officials.

Eventually, on January 2, Trump shocked Pentagon officials by opting to kill Soleimani.

Later, the Trump administration would defend the strikes by saying Soleimani had been plotting an "imminent" attack. But The Times reported that there were disagreements within the administration about whether that was the case.

One US official told The Times there wasn't evidence of an imminent attack, and that Soleimani appeared to be going about "business as usual."

In the wake of Soleimani's death, tension between the US and Iran has dramatically escalated. A top Iranian commander warned Friday that the nation has already prepared 35 potential targets for a counter-strike against the US, likely targeting American ships in the Strait of Hormuz, Sea of Oman, and the Persian Gulf.

On Saturday night, Trump took to Twitter to warn Iran not to retaliate, threatening that the US had assembled 52 targets for strikes — one representing each of the 52 Americans held for more than a year during the Iranian hostage crisis.

He also threatened that the targets were "at a very high level & important to Iran & the Iranian culture."

He continued: "Those targets, and Iran itself, WILL BE HIT VERY FAST AND VERY HARD. The USA wants no more threats!"

 

 

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5 hours ago, fraufruit said:

He also threatened that the targets were „at a very high level & important to Iran and the Iranian culture“

Targeting cultural sites is a war crime under the 1954 Hague Convention for the protection of cultural sites.

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4 minutes ago, BethAnnBitt said:

and this would make it a war crime

Talking of crime: Is there a legal basis for taking out Soleimani? And will there be a legal basis for US troops staying in Irak, given that the Iraqi parliament voted to make them leave the country and the PM joined that demand?

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10 minutes ago, jeba said:

Talking of crime: Is there a legal basis for taking out Soleimani? And will there be a legal basis for US troops staying in Irak, given that the Iraqi parliament voted to make them leave the country and the PM joined that demand?

 

Yes there is. He should not have been in Iraq. The law goes back to 2002. The present action should not last longer than 30 days.

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19 minutes ago, jeremytwo said:

 

Yes there is. He should not have been in Iraq. The law goes back to 2002. The present action should not last longer than 30 days.

 

Just because they're called "paint chips" doesn't mean you should eat them.

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Let the games begin -

 

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The homepage for the U.S. Federal Depository Library Program was briefly altered Saturday evening to show a pro-Iranian message and an image of bloodied Donald Trump being punched in the face. 

A line at the bottom read: "Hacked by Iran Cyber Security Group Hackers. This is only small part of Iran's cyber ability! We're always ready."

 

 

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3 hours ago, fraufruit said:

You are right, BUT he gave the example of where he would be killed one day BEFORE he was killed in Iraq as well as the location.  I don't think that he would advertise his movements on a Twitter account nor book months in advance.  

Even though I don't care for Boris Johnson that must, he was rather succinct when he heard the news.  F**K!

 

source

 

 

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6 hours ago, Boethius said:

Funny how an Opinion writer wrote in the NYTimes the day before the attack and America's supposedly close friends in Europe were ignorant of the situation.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/02/opinion/hypersonic-missiles.html

What friends? Trump made it very clear that he considers EU one of the US biggest foes. And who would want to clean up after Trump if it can be avoided?

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Now we start to find out who are Swamp and who not...

 

 

Kerry is an unelected person meddling in Iran.

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