Posted 6 Mar 2020 2 hours ago, mtbiking said: I can’t recall ever having been tailgated or overtaken by a Tesla, if anything I’m the one doing the overtaking and I’m on the road some 30,000 km a year.. It seems to me evident that Tesla drivers can be profiled differently than Mercedes, BMW or Audi drivers. You know why? Because we do most of our travels with autopilot. I just did 1100km 2 weeks ago to Italy and 98% of driving was autopilot. Super relaxing. Even on my daily commute 90% is on autopilot, especially on Mitlerer ring. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 6 Mar 2020 2 hours ago, yesterday said: I did 28000 kms last year, have 30+ years of isurance cover ( no accidents/claims), have third party and theft coverage and costs me 250 euro a year - but it is a way lower class of car to a Tesla I´m talking 1500€ for full coverage, meaning self damage. I was expecting north of 2000€. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 6 Mar 2020 52 minutes ago, MikeMelga said: You know why? Because we do most of our travels with autopilot. I just did 1100km 2 weeks ago to Italy and 98% of driving was autopilot. Super relaxing. Even on my daily commute 90% is on autopilot, especially on Mitlerer ring. I hope you are doing the right thing and are in self imposed quarantine... Or are you spreading cronavirus like you Tesla shite? 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 6 Mar 2020 41 minutes ago, SpiderPig said: I hope you are doing the right thing and are in self imposed quarantine... Or are you spreading cronavirus like you Tesla shite? Hahaha, thanks for the concern <sarcastic>. As stated on the virus thread, me and my family have been in self imposed quarantine since returning. Will be over on Monday. We were around Lago di Garda, slightly before this got out of hand. So probability of catching it was very low, as that area was not affected. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 6 Mar 2020 On 2/29/2020, 9:53:00, BradinBayern said: https://cleantechnica.com/2018/06/04/electric-car-insurance-woes-evs-have-more-accidents-tesla-model-s-most-expensive-to-insure/ According to insurers in Norway, Teslas are involved in more accidents and cost more to insure. Tesla's insurance is only available in California, insurance is regulated at state level apparently so it would take a long time to roll out. Or, like the boring company and solar roof, insurance may turn out to be another of Elon's shower thoughts that should pribably have stayed in the shower. This week GM announced a battery breakthrough, announced up to 20 new ev models, a new battery plant and a 2 billion dollar investment, and figures for the first 2 months of the year show Tesla sales are steady in the US but being overtaken in Europe, Japan and China - yet the stock price still went up $100???!!! 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 6 Mar 2020 44 minutes ago, arsenal21 said: https://cleantechnica.com/2018/06/04/electric-car-insurance-woes-evs-have-more-accidents-tesla-model-s-most-expensive-to-insure/ According to insurers in Norway, Teslas are involved in more accidents and cost more to insure. More accidents makes me a bit surprised, but insurance costs does not. I was expecting to pay more for mine, but that would be compensated by lower running costs. BTW, the comparison is for Model S, with is all aluminium. The Model 3 does not have much aluminium, it is much cheaper to repair. Quote Tesla's insurance is only available in California, insurance is regulated at state level apparently so it would take a long time to roll out. Or, like the boring company and solar roof, insurance may turn out to be another of Elon's shower thoughts that should pribably have stayed in the shower. Not entirely true. It is already available in Germany, but through a cooperation with a local insurer. Quote This week GM announced a battery breakthrough, announced up to 20 new ev models, a new battery plant and a 2 billion dollar investment, and figures for the first 2 months of the year show Tesla sales are steady in the US but being overtaken in Europe, Japan and China - yet the stock price still went up $100???!!! Let's see: there was no battery breakthrough announcement. They just said they have a new battery architecture that uses 70% less cobalt (compared to WHAT???) and that can be scaled up to 400 miles range. There was absolutely no indication on performance. Where the fuck is the breakthrough?? They expect to have (when?) battery cells below $100 per Kwh. Well Tesla is already close to that. Tesla's next target is $100 at pack level! Those are very different things. New battery plant? They are buying it from LG! And Tesla has 3 battery plants already! 2 billion dollar investment? That's nothing compared to VW. What they forgot to say: Tesla is not standing still. "Battery day", planned for April, will show the next generation of batteries from Tesla. GM is benchmarking against the old tech. Tesla is supposedly going to have a Chinese model with a low-tech battery with zero cobalt and belwo $100 per Kwh Tesla has a huge supercharger network. Tesla has a huge advantage on software. Look at VW struggling in getting the ID3 to work! GM new EV launch is like Mercedes or BMW: somewhere in the future. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 6 Mar 2020 59 minutes ago, arsenal21 said: yet the stock price still went up $100???!!! Well, not exactly. Did you happen to notice ALL THE MARKET EXCHANGES? 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 6 Mar 2020 4 hours ago, SpiderPig said: I hope you are doing the right thing and are in self imposed quarantine... Or are you spreading cronavirus like you Tesla shite? 14 minutes ago, SpiderPig said: Thats the Fanboi talking!!! Oooo, a Telsa H8Boi 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 6 Mar 2020 4 minutes ago, SpiderPig said: fu Q ?? FU Q: fear, uncertainty and QAnon, I guess, J2? is that you? 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 6 Mar 2020 1 hour ago, Janx Spirit said: Oooo, a Telsa H8Boi Nope. MM likes to pretend that he`s interested in EVs. However he is really only interested if the EVs are Teslas,he does nothing but put down any other EV made by anyone but Tesla where he should really be welcoming them but he seems to want them to fail so that Tesla has the market. As he stated he started as an investor in Tesla not as an owner so his priority lies solely in supporting Tesla not EVs.The worst thing that could happen in his mind is that some other company introduces a for everyone affordable EV that would leave Tesla dead in the water. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 6 Mar 2020 19 minutes ago, Keleth said: As he stated he started as an investor in Tesla not as an owner so his priority lies solely in supporting Tesla not EVs. I believe that is the definition of an investor. 19 minutes ago, Keleth said: company introduces a for everyone affordable EV and that might just be tesla or tesla technology. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 6 Mar 2020 41 minutes ago, catjones said: and that might just be tesla or tesla technology. Yep it may well be,however anyone who sees MMs posts as anything but loving up Tesla as much as possible needs to open their eyes. 42 minutes ago, catjones said: I believe that is the definition of an investor. Yes but if you read his posts in the Frankfurt Diesel ban thread he`s supposedly all about EVs not just Tesla EVs. If you believe him there is nothing that anyone does better than Tesla even insurance ffs. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 7 Mar 2020 5 hours ago, Keleth said: Nope. MM likes to pretend that he`s interested in EVs. However he is really only interested if the EVs are Teslas,he does nothing but put down any other EV made by anyone but Tesla where he should really be welcoming them but he seems to want them to fail so that Tesla has the market. As he stated he started as an investor in Tesla not as an owner so his priority lies solely in supporting Tesla not EVs.The worst thing that could happen in his mind is that some other company introduces a for everyone affordable EV that would leave Tesla dead in the water. Your reasoning is good, but wrong. My concern is that if not for Tesla, all other manufacturers would keep doing what they have been doing for decades. So I get really pissed off when news like this one from GM pop up. It is just to keep GM investors happy, to spread Tesla FUD, to postpone the inevitable transition. As an example: GM said they will have batteries between 50kwh and 200kwh, leading to range up to 400 miles. So they need 200kwh to achieve 400 miles?? The Tesla Model S is doing 390miles with 100kwh! Where is the threat here? NONE! It is all bullshit for fool investors. And that is what pisses me off! In truth, the only company, besides Tesla, who is committed to an EV future is VW. I am genuinely interested in the ID3. At the same time I find it ironic as they can't get SW straight, because they have not embraced vertical integration, as Tesla has. And I find it funny because Germans can't do software. As an investor, I am quite comfortable on the long run in Tesla. I think the next 6 months will be a bumpy ride (CoronaVirus, and especially a potential weak Q1), but there are 6 things that Tesla will do this year which will pump the stock up: Model Y (next 2 weeks) Battery day (new generation batteries, own production, next month) Potential powertrain deal. My best guess is still Mercedes Semi truck (somewhere end of the year?) Tesla App store. Not announced when, but this will be an good source of income, with minimum expenditure Full Self driving advancements. I don't expect them to be close to completion, but I expect a solid demonstration, until the end of the year. If they don't, I'll probably sell the stock. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 7 Mar 2020 https://edition.cnn.com/2020/03/06/politics/young-green-republicans-climate-weir-wxc/index.html Skip to 2:15 to listen to a conservative young man saying: Quote Everyone in my Generation wants to buy a Tesla This is the generation that is about to have purchase power. Imagine what this will do for Tesla in the next 5-10 years. This is the car of dreams from 5-40 years old. You can't buy this kind of publicity. Same for other EVs. My guess is, for most people, if they can't afford a Tesla, they will not buy an ICE car! One of my life's biggest frustrations is to go to a normal mechanic and he makes fun of me, saying I have to change this and that part. I can't understand what is he talking about, so I have to trust his shit! With EVs, it's pretty straightforward. There are 10x less things that can go wrong, and when they do, the car will probably tell you about it.This generation is no willing to withstand the typical repair shop bullshit! 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 7 Mar 2020 4 minutes ago, MikeMelga said: https://edition.cnn.com/2020/03/06/politics/young-green-republicans-climate-weir-wxc/index.html Everyone in my Generation wants to buy a Tesla You can't buy this kind of publicity. Sorry... Idont want to buy a tesla.... So your pal is wrong... You cant buy it... but you can swollow it if you want to! 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 7 Mar 2020 8 minutes ago, SpiderPig said: Sorry... Idont want to buy a tesla... So your pal is wrong... We're too old, Spidey. The article was about the young generation - under 40. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 7 Mar 2020 I asked Lilly... she didnt give a shit either... 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 7 Mar 2020 55 minutes ago, MikeMelga said: One of my life's biggest frustrations is to go to a normal mechanic and he makes fun of me, saying I have to change this and that part. I can't understand what is he talking about, so I have to trust his shit! With EVs, it's pretty straightforward. There are 10x less things that can go wrong, and when they do, the car will probably tell you about it.This generation is no willing to withstand the typical repair shop bullshit! Bit like me with IT. Mechanics for me ìs far easier to understand and follow through than electronics but what I can't get is why people moan how much a garage will charge for physically lifting a vehicle, carrying out a repair or part replacement and road testing after and yet are happy to blow loads of cash for someone to run a diagnostic programme on a PC and 'repair a software problem that may have been fixed with a download. By the way, plugging an electronic box into a car and let it say a code is not diagnosing a fault. Taking a car out for a run or putting it onto a rolling road is diagnosing a problem. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
