Posted 19 Feb 2020 TSLA 21 Jan = $547 19 Feb = $926.....up 70% in one month 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 19 Feb 2020 3 hours ago, catjones said: I guess you've never been to a city. Not sure what you`re getting at but yep someones quality of life is more important than someone making money. You mentioned he was a real estate lawyer so I`m taking it for granted he wasn`t building to give away to the homeless. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 20 Feb 2020 4 hours ago, Keleth said: someones quality of life is more important than someone making money. so says you. your blind defense of the "down-trodden" imbues them with undeserved virtues and denigrates the wealthy with undeserved scorn. using your "logic" if I were disturbed by your comments (my quality of life) you should be banned from TT. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 20 Feb 2020 3 hours ago, catjones said: so says you. your blind defense of the "down-trodden" imbues them with undeserved virtues and denigrates the wealthy with undeserved scorn. using your "logic" if I were disturbed by your comments (my quality of life) you should be banned from TT. The humanity just pours off of you. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 20 Feb 2020 22 hours ago, Keleth said: No but it certainly gives you the right to protest against it ffs. I grew up on various RAF bases around the world so I`m used to noise. However between 2015-2017 they built 3 or4 hochhauses a couple of hundred metres from us.Everyday for 3 years 7am starts the noise until early evening.It drives you fucking nuts there is absolutely no peace and every day you find yourself waiting for them to make mittags and feierabend.You get home at 11 or 12 from lates knowing that next morning after 7am you have no chance of sleeping and don`t even mention sleeping when you have night shift. So please stop making out that the disturbance to people is nothing because it`s not. So you are saying that we should shut down any economic activity that makes noise. No, wait. Any economic activity that has the POTENTIAL to make noise? Are you Amish? 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 20 Feb 2020 49 minutes ago, BradinBayern said: So you are saying that we should shut down any economic activity that makes noise. No, wait. Any economic activity that has the POTENTIAL to make noise? Are you Amish? Are you saying businesses should be able to be built without worrying about the environmental impact ? (Yes noise pollution is a part of environmental impact) Everything has its own merits. But you certainly shouldn`t shut down peoples rights to protest against it either. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 20 Feb 2020 27 minutes ago, Keleth said: Are you saying businesses should be able to be built without worrying about the environmental impact ? (Yes noise pollution is a part of environmental impact) Everything has its own merits. But you certainly shouldn`t shut down peoples rights to protest against it either. What noise? The plant hasn't been built yet. The environmental impact has been looked at 20 years ago when the land was zoned industrial and was decided by duly elected officials as acceptable. Protest all you want. However, you should be aware of what you are protesting. Even the Greens have stated that this is a stupid protest (see below). However, they have shut down the building site. If they shut it down until March, then they have shut it down for half a year at least. There is a good chance that Tesla will not want to wait that long and go somewhere else (actually, I hope they do) That is a bit more than just protesting. They have given Germany a black eye for international investment because Tesla had the audacity to want to build a plant in an industrial zone. Tesla has bent over backwards to offer to reforest an area three times the size and made many other concessions. Quote "You don't always have to be against everything. How absurd to declare a pine tree plantation a forest. We shouldn't get carried away but make Tesla's investment in the future possible." Quote To make a pine tree plantation a battlefield is absurd. It has nothing to do with conservation. and those are just the Greens! Turns out even the members of the Grünen Liga are pissed off and want to get rid of their leaders. It seems that the whole thing comes down to just a few cranky people. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 20 Feb 2020 1 hour ago, BradinBayern said: the whole thing comes down to just a few cranky people. aka...Keleth... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 20 Feb 2020 4 hours ago, BradinBayern said: Protest all you want. However, you should be aware of what you are protesting. Damn I missed where I protested against the gigafactory site. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 20 Feb 2020 5 hours ago, BradinBayern said: There is a good chance that Tesla will not want to wait that long and go somewhere else (actually, I hope they do) If they are really serious then they will have invested god knows how much in this venture already and it would take more than that to make them withdraw. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 20 Feb 2020 1 hour ago, Keleth said: Damn I missed where I protested against the gigafactory site. Geez you are a nitpicker. "You" is meant in the generally accepted alternative to "One" As in "One may protest all one wants but one should understand what one is protesting against." Happy? You must be a blast at parties. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 20 Feb 2020 22 minutes ago, Keleth said: If they are really serious then they will have invested god knows how much in this venture already and it would take more than that to make them withdraw. If you haven't noticed they seem to have quite a bit of money. Germany, Brandenburg, and Grünheide all have potentially much more to lose than Tesla does. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 21 Feb 2020 Ban lifted. Tesla can proceed felling trees. https://www.boersennews.de/nachrichten/artikel/roundup-gericht-tesla-darf-weiter-roden-stopp-aufgehoben/2080844/ 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 21 Feb 2020 1 hour ago, jeba said: Ban lifted. Tesla can proceed felling trees. https://www.boersennews.de/nachrichten/artikel/roundup-gericht-tesla-darf-weiter-roden-stopp-aufgehoben/2080844/ Yep. The only thing that the Grünen Liga accomplished is that politicians will now be looking at how to restrict such trivial law suits in the future. 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 21 Feb 2020 Every major construction project in the Berlin area is controversial. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 21 Feb 2020 9 hours ago, balticus said: Every major construction project in the Berlin area is controversial. there, fixed it. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 24 Feb 2020 The Estrel Tower hasn't faced any serious protest as far as I know. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 24 Feb 2020 On 2/21/2020, 7:34:29, balticus said: Every major construction project in the Berlin area is controversial. Every major construction project anywhere is controversial. It`s just that the big name ones get the publicity. Every time you build something it is going to interfere with someones life in some way. You just need to weigh up the pros and cons. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 24 Feb 2020 1 hour ago, murphaph said: The Estrel Tower hasn't faced any serious protest as far as I know. Which will kill many more birds than any wind generator. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 27 Feb 2020 Not been a good week for the fanboys: Share price down 25% Panasonic to end partnership for solar cell production and so NY Gigafactory could be shuttered China production and Demand stuttering because of coronavirus 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
