Posted 28 July 2 hours ago, circuits said: Thanks for checking this out. Max pimped-out version (AWD / 225kW / 72,6kWh) using their configuration page is 51.180€ - including the Umweltpraemie: https://hyundai.de/code/L7BZWEAQ Do you consider 460km highway / 640km city is a limited range? For 46.000€ you can get the best car in the world right now: the Tesla Model 3 LR AWD. I'm sure the Ioniq is a great option for the cheaper city-driver range, but if you want to spend that amount of money, forget it. The Tesla is years ahead. You get better range, great charging network, amazing autopilot, amazing acceleration, amazing handling, highest crash test rating, etc. Makes absolutely no sense to buy the Ioniq at that price range. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 28 July Well, except if you happen to find the Model 3 ugly AF :D 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 28 July 23 minutes ago, circuits said: Well, except if you happen to find the Model 3 ugly AF :D Still the best car, even if you think it's ugly. My person opinion is it's gorgeous. The front is not perfect, they got a bit lazy there, but all the rest is great. And looks much better in person. What I hate are the fucking SUVs and crossovers! Un-elegant, terrible to drive and inheritenly unsafe. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 29 July Does anyone know, whether Tesla models we get here in Germany, are they made in China or the USA? For e.g. While buying BMW, Audi, Mercedez etc. I see it mentioned specifically that particular car is German Model and not made in other easter European country. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 29 July Just now, DanglingPointer said: Does anyone know, whether Tesla models we get here in Germany, are they made in China or the USA? For e.g. While buying BMW, Audi, Mercedez etc. I see it mentioned specifically that particular car is German Model and not made in other easter European country. China. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 29 July "Nikola founder Trevor Milton indicted in US for misleading investors" Quote NEW YORK, July 29 (Reuters) - Trevor Milton, the founder of electric truck maker Nikola Corp (NKLA.O), has been indicted on charges of making false and misleading statements to investors, the U.S. Department of Justice said on Thursday. The indictment said that, from November 2019 to September 2020, Milton schemed to defraud investors into buying Nikola shares through statements about the company's product and technology development. Nikola did not immediately respond to requests for comment. Last September, Hindenburg Research said in a paper that it was short-selling Nikola stock and labelled the company a "fraud", a charge it denied. https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/us-says-nikola-founder-milton-indicted-misleading-investors-2021-07-29/ 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 1 August On 29/07/2021, 20:17:04, DanglingPointer said: Does anyone know, whether Tesla models we get here in Germany, are they made in China or the USA? For e.g. While buying BMW, Audi, Mercedez etc. I see it mentioned specifically that particular car is German Model and not made in other easter European country. On 29/07/2021, 20:18:17, Janx Spirit said: China. The Models S and X are made in California. Model 3 Performance and Long Range Dual Motor are also made in CA. The Model 3 SR+ sold in Europe is made in China and the soon to be available in Europe Model Y is made in China until the factory near Berlin is up and running. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 1 August 1 hour ago, CincyInDE said: The Models S and X are made in California. Model 3 Performance and Long Range Dual Motor are also made in CA. The Model 3 SR+ sold in Europe is made in China and the soon to be available in Europe Model Y is made in China until the factory near Berlin is up and running. Small correction. I think some or all of the Model 3 LR are made in China, using another battery supplier (CATL), instead of Panasonic. The Panasonic version is still superior in terms of weight and performance. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 2 August What is the best way to charge Tesla via public charging network in Munich. I see so many apps for searching the chargers and each charger price depends on the card we use. Ranges between 7 cent up to 1.2 euro depending on which card is used Also, Tesla guys told me that if I have an ADAC membership, I can get a few cents discount on charging. I have SWM chargers near my home, so most probably have to use them initially. https://www.elvah.de/plans/ladepakete https://www.adac.de/services/e-angebote/adac-e-charge/ https://swm.emobilitycloud.com/de/register 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 2 August I have ADAC membership card with mobility+ app. Works very well. As I rarely charge outside superchargers or from home, I don't care much about rates, it's more about availability. You also have 3 superchargers within Munich, so you could stop by for 20 minutes every 2 weeks and top it up. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 2 August @MikeMelga Did you buy any accessories (All weather rubber floor mats and mats for trunk and Frunk) from Tesla or are there better options elsewhere? In a lot of youtube videos especially from US, I see people buying from Amazon or some other online vendors, but amazon.de doesn't have many options. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 2 August 2 hours ago, DanglingPointer said: are there better options elsewhere? so many questions. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 2 August 4 hours ago, catjones said: so many questions. No-one has put gun on your head, to answer 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 2 August 5 hours ago, catjones said: so many questions. Yer how dare he asks questions of the self appointed experts on Tesla and EVs on this thread. Cheek. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 2 August 12 hours ago, DanglingPointer said: What is the best way to charge Tesla via public charging network in Munich. I see so many apps for searching the chargers and each charger price depends on the card we use. Ranges between 7 cent up to 1.2 euro depending on which card is used Also, Tesla guys told me that if I have an ADAC membership, I can get a few cents discount on charging. I have SWM chargers near my home, so most probably have to use them initially. https://www.elvah.de/plans/ladepakete https://www.adac.de/services/e-angebote/adac-e-charge/ https://swm.emobilitycloud.com/de/register I charge at SWM chargers almost exclusively. ADAC/EnBW used to be the best deal, but that changed at the beginning of July (0.42€/kWh A/C at non EnBW chargers + ADAC membership). Now the best deal* is the SWM card (the swm.emobility link you posted): 0.38€/kWh + 5€ for the card). *There are better deals, but most of them rely on you living in a small town with a small local Stadtwerke where you can "roam" at SWM's chargers for cheap. Once the small Stadtwerke realizes you don't live in their area they cancel your card. I read about elvah when it came out and getting the best deal requires more effort than I'm willing to put in. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 2 August 9 hours ago, DanglingPointer said: @MikeMelga Did you buy any accessories (All weather rubber floor mats and mats for trunk and Frunk) from Tesla or are there better options elsewhere? I highly recommend the all weather rubber floor mats, plus trunk, from Tesla. I didn't buy the frunk mats. I thought I would only use them in winter, but ended up using them all year long, they are great. https://shop.tesla.com/de_de/product/model-3-allwetter-innenraummatten-hochwandig They also have a USB stick, which I would recommend, as I didnt have it at the time and ended up with a complicated solution. https://shop.tesla.com/de_de/product/usb-stick---128-gb 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 2 August 2 hours ago, Keleth said: Yer how dare he asks questions of the self appointed experts on Tesla and EVs on this thread. Cheek. We have an unwritten code of conduct in the IT world and that is to do your own research before asking others for help. I think it applies elsewhere. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 3 August 6 hours ago, catjones said: We have an unwritten code of conduct in the IT world and that is to do your own research before asking others for help. I think it applies elsewhere. Sorry didn´t know this forum was an IT forum. The "etiquette" on this forum is you search the forum if nothing there then ask away. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted 3 August The AirElectric App (iOS and Android) does a good job of showing the prices of various cards at any particular charging station. I recently got a card from FreshMile. They have very good prices (~25¢ / kWh @ 11kW) but they do not work at SWM chargers. There are a lot of compatible chargers in Munich, though. Check out their map at FreshMile.com. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
