Lufthansa Strike

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If you planned to fly LH on Thursday or Friday, make other plans....

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A friend is going to Asia tomorrow and declared how relieved he is that he chose an airline essentially run by a dictator - no strikes. Ever!

 

If I were in his shoes I might agree ;)

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11 hours ago, lisa13 said:

A friend is going to Asia tomorrow and declared how relieved he is that he chose an airline essentially run by a dictator - no strikes. Ever!

 

If I were in his shoes I might agree ;)

 

Yep, if ever I go on holiday to the Far East I never fly with Lufthansa as there have been these strikes over the last few years now. Air China, Cathay Pacific and Aeroflot all provide a very good service and you can pretty much guarantee that they will never go on strike.

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I am so surprised that it's the cabin crew that are on strike.  I know a couple of Lufthansa stewards (I hope this is PC).  Every time i speak with them they are either 10 days off or going on holiday. I'll have to ask them what the hell else they want.

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7 hours ago, PandaMunich said:

None of the daughter companies of Lufthansa are affected: https://www.spiegel.de/reise/aktuell/streik-was-lufthansa-passagiere-wissen-muessen-a-1294829.html

  • "The Group Airlines Eurowings, Germanwings, Sunexpress, Lufthansa Cityline, SWISS, Edelweiss, Austrian Airlines, Air Dolomiti and Brussels Airlines will not be on strike, the press release continued."

Danke

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22 hours ago, PandaMunich said:

None of the daughter companies of Lufthansa are affected: https://www.spiegel.de/reise/aktuell/streik-was-lufthansa-passagiere-wissen-muessen-a-1294829.html

  • "The Group Airlines Eurowings, Germanwings, Sunexpress, Lufthansa Cityline, SWISS, Edelweiss, Austrian Airlines, Air Dolomiti and Brussels Airlines will not be on strike, the press release continued."

Yet. Apparently the union is considering widening the strike in the next round, if Lufthansa doesn't respond to their demands sufficiently.

 

At least that's what I heard on the news yesterday.

 

It wouldn't surprise me if their announcement of eliminating 700-800 jobs at Austrian Airways yesterday generated some kind of response.

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The disruption, stress, lost days and enormous costs to their customers, yet they keep coming back for more.  After the Air Berlin fiasco, EU airlines are the absolute last resort...

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Interesting news article in the Local Today. The EU is girding up for a big fight over bailout money for Lufthansa. Short version is that if Lufthansa does take the money they need to give up some major and lucrative slots at Frankfurt and Munich. Bottom feeder Ryanair and it's shareholders are just drooling at the thought of being able to feast on the dead carcass of Lufthansa. But seriously it is going to be a very interesting fight as this would mean replacing high compensated German pilots with low paid (relatively speaking) East German gig workers This is going to be a titanic fight between the EU and the German government.  The EU is very very clear (and most correct) on a level playing field for all countries. If the board holds firm and says screw it, we'll just file "chapter 11" I suspect that Merkel would turn around and give the EU a swift kick in the nuts!

 

https://www.thelocal.de/20200527/lufthansa-says-currently-unable-to-approve-state-rescue-over-eu-conditions

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I hope they do give their slots, it is shameful what is going on in German airports. This is pure monopoly and the EU is right.

 

7 minutes ago, Rushrush said:

The EU is very very clear (and most correct) on a level playing field for all countries. If the board holds firm and says screw it, we'll just file "chapter 11" I suspect that Merkel would turn around and give the EU a swift kick in the nuts!

Germany needs the EU as much the EU needs Germany. So no kick in the nuts, a compromise must be reached.

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Must admit, I do not really see much difference between Lufthansa and easyjet these days, ie you have to pay to take a bag in the hold and Lufthansa has less weight for the carry on bags.

 

Its very unfair, if Lufthansa gets a bail out and more well run airlines, like ryanair and easyjet have to compete with this. If Germany wants to help, it should be forced to give an aid package to all airlines.

 

It would be good for Lufthansa to loose slots, so we can all travel more cheaply 

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Air France - KLM got credit of 10 bln.

Did they also lose slots?

What about Alitalia?

Is the EU corrupt?

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2 hours ago, yesterday said:

Must admit, I do not really see much difference between Lufthansa and easyjet these days, ie you have to pay to take a bag in the hold and Lufthansa has less weight for the carry on bags.

 

Its very unfair, if Lufthansa gets a bail out and more well run airlines, like ryanair and easyjet have to compete with this. If Germany wants to help, it should be forced to give an aid package to all airlines.

 

It would be good for Lufthansa to loose slots, so we can all travel more cheaply 

Who said life is fair? Look at Alitalia, for example. They don't make a profit for 20 (?) years now and still get government funding.

 

National airlines like Air France, KLM and Lufthansa are too important for the economy. Lufthansa employs more than 100,000 employees. KLM is the oldest commercial airline in the world (101 years) and there is lot of sentiment involved.

 

I'm sure that Merkel will contact her buddy Von der Leyen to work it out :).

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4 hours ago, LukeSkywalker said:

I'm sure that Merkel will contact her buddy Von der Leyen to work it out :).

If you look at the stock price the market seems to believe that as well.

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5 hours ago, LukeSkywalker said:

Who said life is fair? Look at Alitalia, for example. They don't make a profit for 20 (?) years now and still get government funding.

 

National airlines like Air France, KLM and Lufthansa are too important for the economy. Lufthansa employs more than 100,000 employees. KLM is the oldest commercial airline in the world (101 years) and there is lot of sentiment involved.

 

I'm sure that Merkel will contact her buddy Von der Leyen to work it out :).

Do you remember the collapse of Swissair in 2001? No one back then could have conceived it! A Swiss company like that?


 

https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2001/10/swis-o13.html

 

I know the link is to an old-fashioned revolutionary source!😂

My reading habits have changed a bit!

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58 minutes ago, john g. said:

Do you remember the collapse of Swissair in 2001? No one back then could have conceived it!

No, but I remember the collapse of Olympic Airways. I flew to Thessaloniki as a student back then. Free alcohol as much as you wanted!! Not sure if that caused the bankruptcy though :). 

 

Ps- Just read on Wiki that all stated-owned airlines in Greece went bankrupt since the 1930s.

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8 hours ago, yesterday said:

Its very unfair, if Lufthansa gets a bail out and more well run airlines, like ryanair and easyjet have to compete with this. If Germany wants to help, it should be forced to give an aid package to all airlines.

 

It would be good for Lufthansa to loose slots, so we can all travel more cheaply 

 

As a passenger I do support your last sentence, but I disagree that Germany should give aid to non-German companies. These companies should ask for help their countries. 

Why would not Italy give money to Lufthansa? Oh, it is in a huge debt and it helps AlItalia, but nobody wanna block this help with the hands of  the EU bureaucrats. Looks like hypocrisy and double standards to me.

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Unsure how it is in other countries, but in Portugal the whole air flight industry, especially ground crew, is a "job for the boys" thing. You know "someone" who can get you a job there.

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