Leaving the country - what will I miss/not miss?

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6 minutes ago, Keefy said:

The longer I live here, the more I appreciate that there actually IS a German sense of humour...

 

Certainly I am blessed with marrying in to a very lively family. They are anything but quiet especially when they take over a restaurant - they have fun, chat about the last/next holidays, and do take the piss when anyone gets above their station.

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On 8/17/2019, 1:13:24, French bean said:

Depends how old you are really. When I grew up, shops closed Wed. afternoons in the town and the village shop was closed for up to 2 hours for lunch and at 12 on a Saturday. The owner loved his afternoon snoozes. Over Christmas and Easter shops were closed from 12:00 Xmas eve until day after boxing day or the Monday if boxing day was on Saturday and over Easter on Good Friday and Easter Monday. Amazingly, no one starved.

I remember those days.

 

One important item I forgot is WATER.  The lovely zero lime water that we get here.  In the 10 years, here, I haven't once put salt in the dishwasher or have had to clean the electric kettle from scale.

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On 8/16/2019, 9:47:48, rodisi said:

The weather

Seriously I see no real difference between here and England.

More rain in England yep but more snow here so evens out.

Both have summers that last about 4 weeks with ridiculously hot temperatures.

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1 hour ago, rodisi said:

I remember those days.

 

One important item I forgot is WATER.  The lovely zero lime water that we get here.  In the 10 years, here, I haven't once put salt in the dishwasher or have had to clean the electric kettle from scale.

Depends totall on where you live.

We have a water softener in the basement yet still the water is full of chalk

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17 hours ago, Keefy said:

The longer I live here, the more I appreciate that there actually IS a German sense of humour...there were the endless jokes about life in the DDR and after...what's the difference between Sozialismus and Orgasmus...under socialism, you moan for a lot longer...what's the difference between a Trabant and a Jehovah's Witness...you can shut the door on a Jehovah's Witness, and then there was an advert a while back on Berlin buses for a Chinese airline with a picture of the Great Wall and the logo: "Hey, Berliners, wanna see another Wall?" Then the regional jokes...what do you call a Prussian who HASN'T got piles...a pure and simple arsehole/asshole, so on and so forth.

 

I remember also a comedy show with a standup comedian of Turkish origin, and he was imagining the next generation of satnavs...you don't just have a voice, but a hologram...like Darth Vader..."You are taking the left-hand path, young Skywalker...

 

Couldn't live here if there was no sense of fun and mischief.

 

 

I think what is missing from German humour is sarcasm.

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2 hours ago, rodisi said:

I remember those days.

 

One important item I forgot is WATER.  The lovely zero lime water that we get here.  In the 10 years, here, I haven't once put salt in the dishwasher or have had to clean the electric kettle from scale.

 

that's funny  in munich the water is practically chewy with kalk.  If I boil water for even 5-10 minutes to steam veg or similar, I have to hit the pan with vinegar afterwards to get the kalk off as a good scrub doesn't cut it. I recall a similar problem when I spent some time in Berlin.

 

I don't think this kalk-free water is a national thing - you're lucky!

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5 minutes ago, lisa13 said:

 

that's funny  in munich the water is practically chewy with kalk.  If I boil water for even 5-10 minutes to steam veg or similar, I have to hit the pan with vinegar afterwards to get the kalk off as a good scrub doesn't cut it. I recall a similar problem when I spent some time in Berlin.

 

I don't think this kalk-free water is a national thing - you're lucky!

 

If @rodisi lives in the Marburg area she might get soft water out of the tap, but it's not limescale free. See here: 

 

https://www.stadtwerke-marburg.de/fileadmin/user_upload/Downloads_Infomaterial/Infomaterial_Wasser/Auszug_der_Wasseranalysen_2018.pdf

 

I grew up in Madrid, where the water is very soft and as a child, I ever understood the concept of limescale accumulating anywhere. That either didn't happen or it happened so slowly that by the time a showerhead was clogged with limescale, it was so old, it was time to replace it anyway. I never heard of anyone ever descaling anything. Then I moved to London and I experienced the problem first hand.

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21 minutes ago, Smaug said:

 

If @rodisi lives in the Marburg area she might get soft water out of the tap, but it's not limescale free. See here: 

 

https://www.stadtwerke-marburg.de/fileadmin/user_upload/Downloads_Infomaterial/Infomaterial_Wasser/Auszug_der_Wasseranalysen_2018.pdf

 

I grew up in Madrid, where the water is very soft and as a child, I ever understood the concept of limescale accumulating anywhere. That either didn't happen or it happened so slowly that by the time a showerhead was clogged with limescale, it was so old, it was time to replace it anyway. I never heard of anyone ever descaling anything. Then I moved to London and I experienced the problem first hand.

 

I didn't mean to imply rodisi has no minerals/kalk in the water - I just find it fairly surprising that it doesn't cause any scale to build up.  Munich water is on another level (IME) wrt hardness - I still find it shocking. 

 

I grew up with slightly hard water, with an extra dose of sulfur and/or iron.  We didn't have too much in the way of scale, instead we'd get an orange build-up on fixtures, especially in the toilet.  Someone told me it was from a bacteria that was attracted to the iron content and consumed it somehow...their little corpses were essentially full of rust.

 

oh yeah, and the sulfur water stank to high heaven.  I had forgotten how bad it was.  visited after 10 years away and could not believe I lived with that smell any time I opened the tap as a kid :)  

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7 minutes ago, lisa13 said:

 

I didn't mean to imply rodisi has no minerals/kalk in the water -

 

I know I was referring to what she had said: "The lovely zero lime water that we get here."

 

I find it odd as well because if you compare the water analyses from the Marburg and the Munich areas, they are not really that different, Munich water is harder, yes, but not by a huge margin.

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4 hours ago, rodisi said:

One important item I forgot is WATER.  The lovely zero lime water that we get here.  In the 10 years, here, I haven't once put salt in the dishwasher or have had to clean the electric kettle from scale.

 

Concur that Munich Bayern water is chalk with water added. Horrible. Messes up your skin. 

 

i was down in Sudtirol recently camping. The showers were not only awesome for a campsite, but had a strange white stuff which I remembered as foam. it was like being in one of those girly shower commercials.

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24 minutes ago, jeremytwo said:

it was like being in one of those girly shower commercials.

Dream On buster!

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On 8/17/2019, 1:06:54, rodisi said:

I appreciate shops closed on Sunday but when they also close on Wednesday and Saturday afternoons and at lunch times? I find that ridiculous. We were in Eltville the day of their Rose Festival.  Thousands of people.  We stopped at a restaurant for lunch but were told they close between 14.00 and 17.30 - it's a festival FFS.

 

 

I got used to the Sundays off and what not. But what annoys me more is when the opening times are 8:00-17:00 and the MOFOs are packing up and closing the store 15-20 mins before closing time. Isn't that false advertisement? What about being punctual not only at the start of the advertised time, but also punctual at the end of the time! Meaning - keep the damn store open and only close the doors when the place is officially closed!!

 

 

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The premature closing has happened to me too. I understand they don't want to risk ppl coming in 5 min before closing who then spend an hour shopping but it's annoying when you want to grab something quickly and would have made it before they closed.

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21 hours ago, Smaug said:

 

If @rodisi lives in the Marburg area she might get soft water out of the tap, but it's not limescale free. See here: 

 

When I joined the forum, it only gave me the option of Marburg.  I actually live 35km from there. And as I said,in our ten years here, I've never cleaned the electric kettle and have never put salt in the dishwasher and get perfectly clean dishes and glasses. So, whether lime scale or whatever you call it, I don't have it.

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Grew up in the UK flatlands (East Anglia), where the artesian water was pretty hard - kettles etc had to be regularly de-scaled.On the other hand, the amount of calcium in the water meant I had very few dental problems as a youngster, but when the family moved to Birmingham (supplied by soft water from Welsh reservoirs) I started to need a lot more fillings, unfortunately administered by a sadistic bastard who didn't believe in anaesthetic injections beforehand :-( For drinking, I preferred the hard water, unless I happened to be in mountain areas where the water from soft-water streams (i.e. Wales, Scotland) was cold, fresh and utterly delicious.

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5 hours ago, Keefy said:

Grew up in the UK flatlands (East Anglia), where the artesian water was pretty hard - kettles etc had to be regularly de-scaled.On the other hand, the amount of calcium in the water meant I had very few dental problems as a youngster, but when the family moved to Birmingham (supplied by soft water from Welsh reservoirs) I started to need a lot more fillings, unfortunately administered by a sadistic bastard who didn't believe in anaesthetic injections beforehand :-( For drinking, I preferred the hard water, unless I happened to be in mountain areas where the water from soft-water streams (i.e. Wales, Scotland) was cold, fresh and utterly delicious.

Ah Keefy, does that make you a Fen Tiger? :) The region between Cambridge and Bedford is unique. I holidayed on a boat on the Great Ouse and Cam years ago and loved the place.

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My list.

What shall I miss:

- weather (yes, I come from Portugal, but from the cold, wet, windy north)

- courts, liability, insurance. You make a mistake, you pay for it, things work. Someone else makes a mistake, you get money.

- public services

- meritocracy

- public parks, forests, etc

- petty crime safety

- house heating systems and insulation

- Autobahn!

 

What shall I not miss:

- food!

- low quality supermarkets and their stupid closing hours

- bread

- German lack of politeness

- shady eastern europeans/middle east, radical muslims, vegans, bayerisch village idiots, Porsche owners and others

- can't wash the car on the street

- house prices

- German school system

- poor house internal finishings (painting, electric installation, small details)

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40 minutes ago, LukeSkywalker said:

@MikeMelga: in the list "what shall I miss" you forgot German Schlager music :).

 

Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo...

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I went to the Main Ufer festival in Frankfurt last weekend and realised a couple more miss/not miss items.

Miss:

The lack of damned British health and safety crap.  All these thousands of people walking along the embankment and not a single barrier to "stop people falling in".

No lorries on the autobahns on Sundays.

No lorries in the overtaking lanes (third lane)

 

Not miss:

The bloody idiots on the autobahns overtaking me and pulling in a metre in front of me.

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