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It seems that the car has a leak somewhere, since a regas lasts for a few weeks and then the air con blows hot again. 

 

In the UK, I used to find it better to go to an independent air con specialist rather than a garage, as the garages always wanted to start replacing condensers and compressors, whereas the air con specialists seemed to be able to resolve the issue without replacing the big ticket items.

 

I'm having issues finding a dedicated car air con specialist in the FFM area though. When I search for "klimaanlage auto spezialist" I just get the usual companies like ATU, Euromaster, and Pitstop coming up.

 

Do dedicated car air con specialists not exist here then?

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happened to me maybe 3 years ago. I went round all the garages and tried to find s specialist, but could not find. All they offered was a quick re-fill or a proper look at least 2000 euro. 

 

When I was at the main dealer, on one of my many recall actions, the Main dealer said maybe he could fix it for about 2000 Euro. I spent that summer very very hot - as I did not want to pay it.

 

Then a friend told me, how to fix it myself.

I went to Amazon and bought a Air con leak stop bottle ( I cannot find anymore !, but they have such things on ebay @ https://www.ebay.de/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2380057.m570.l1313.TR12.TRC2.A0.H0.Xaircon+leak+stop.TRS0&_nkw=aircon+leak+stop&_sacat=0 

 

All you have to do is find the low pressure point on the Air conditioner and attach this bottle to it ( its easy, you just pull back a plastic part and snap it in ) - run the engine and open the bottle. This will release the leak stop oil into the Air con system. This will hopefullt seal the system, so no more leaks.

 

I remember in the 1980's, I used something called rad seal, to seal a small hole in a radiator that was leaking, it worked.

 

After you have sealed the Air con system, then buy some Air con, coolant  like this https://www.ebay.de/itm/Kit-Neu-Laden-Diy-Gas-R134a-Klimaanlage-Pkw-Air-Conditioner/273055028179?hash=item3f935913d3:g:kL8AAOSwmtJXWu8d I think you can find cheaper ( I did ) - you just attach to the low pressure point and add, while the engine is running, use the supplied garge to get the pressure into the green zone.

 

That was it for me, 3 years later it still works and only took about an hour and a half to do.

 

When you go to a garage, they will try to fix the leak properly, by putting a special colour gas in the Air con system, then using a dark place and a special light they "see" where the leak is and replace that pipe or bad connection, this costs a lot in comparison to fixing it in the above way.

 

I read a lot, about the damage you may do to your con system by using the above method, and decided to take the risk, but its up to you if you want to do it!!, try to get the right fill ant for your Air con system. I used gloves and protection for the eyes which I would recommend aswell.

 

I do not consider myself a good mechanic but found this method easy.

 

 

 

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On 29/04/2019, 08:23:44, yesterday said:

All you have to do is find the low pressure point on the Air conditioner and attach this bottle to it ( its easy, you just pull back a plastic part and snap it in ) - run the engine and open the bottle. This will release the leak stop oil into the Air con system. This will hopefullt seal the system, so no more leaks.

 

 

 

So it's the bottle, rather than the can or the syringe? This, for example? https://www.ebay.de/itm/RED-ANGEL-AUTO-CAR-AC-AIR-CONDITIONER-LEAK-STOP-PLUG-58ML-1-BOTTLE-AIR-CON/262271516834?hash=item3d1099c0a2:g:veIAAOSwp5JWaQIi

 

Because it seems to be a small leak, I am hopeful that this will sort it out. As the air conditioning isn't working, I don't think I can really do more damage to it (famous last words! :P)

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I have no idea how you would get that into your system... 

 

Read up on it before you Chuck 40 dabs away...

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agreed with the pig

 

I cannot see how you would get that into the A/C system

 

why not use the link ebay @ https://www.ebay.de/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2380057.m570.l1313.TR12.TRC2.A0.H0.Xaircon+leak+stop.TRS0&_nkw=aircon+leak+stop&_sacat=0

 

its a can not a bottle, sorry - it comes with the tube and part to attach to your a/c system - low pressure point

 

before you buy, have a look around the engine bay in your car to see if you can see the low pressure point first

 

by the way it worked for me :), if it does not work for you or you get other problems - its not my fault ok

 

 

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And... the water didnt stop flowing from the toilet cystern this morning... so I had a fiddle with my ball-cock arrangement... :D

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Fiddling with ball-cock? I'm used to people coming out with cock and ball stories or just talking ballocks on this Forum not fiddling with their balls:P

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Don't waste your money.

Highly illegal to sell R134a in non refillable containers. Yes its being sold in parts of the EU. However People have been fined heavily with the some country's  demanding to see who the gas was sent to by the seller. In addition the person is charged with the cost of disposal. 

https://www.coolingpost.com/world-news/german-ebay-awash-with-illegal-r134a/

https://ec.europa.eu/consumers/consumers_safety/safety_products/rapex/alerts/?event=viewProduct&reference=A12/0451/19&lng=en

 

Cars are now being filled with propane. Despite cars, fridges, and whole tower blocks bursting into flames this is considered a reduction in greenhouse gasses.  

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1 hour ago, SpiderPig said:

And... the water didnt stop flowing from the toilet cystern this morning... so I had a fiddle with my ball-cock arrangement... :D

Erm, are we talking about a cyst on your ball and cock arrangement, or are we talking about a cistern with a ball and cock arrangement?

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@GoBike...

Dont worry about it...  

 

do you know how many car crashes I see in a week and almost every single one has leaked all their aircon gas into the atmosphere?

 

Every modern car that gets scrapped... every refidgerator left on the street and the pikeys cut off the copper cooler?  

 

Flogging tins of the stuff is all part of the game!

 

 

 

 

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56 minutes ago, SpiderPig said:

@GoBike...

Dont worry about it...  

 

do you know how many car crashes I see in a week and almost every single one has leaked all their aircon gas into the atmosphere?

 

Every modern car that gets scrapped... every refidgerator left on the street and the pikeys cut off the copper cooler?  

 

Flogging tins of the stuff is all part of the game!

I agree with you Its a game to make money for the chemical company's after all an Fgas licence is now 3-5 days in the UK for cars I think even less.

 

Who asks to see the licence I even saw a company on-line showing the C&G exam pass but they had forgot to fill the name in. 

 

If its done wrong however. 

https://www.radionz.co.nz/news/national/84413/icepak-says-it-was-badly-advised-before-fatal-explosion

The company that owned the Tamahere coolstore that exploded in 2008, ... The cool store had been using the propane-based gas for five years

 

56 minutes ago, SpiderPig said:

 

 

 

 

 

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Come on.. play fair.. compare eggs to eggs... 

 

If I said that I caused mayhem when a box of household matches got lit and caused a smoke screen the size of the Oktoberfest, you wouldnt beleive me... but is I actually related the story correctly and said a box of matches the size of a household, then maybe you would beleive me!

 

 

Perspective... lets keep in in perspective!

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On 19/05/2019, 10:10:56, GoBike said:

Don't waste your money.

Highly illegal to sell R134a in non refillable containers. Yes its being sold in parts of the EU. However People have been fined heavily with the some country's  demanding to see who the gas was sent to by the seller. In addition the person is charged with the cost of disposal. 

https://www.coolingpost.com/world-news/german-ebay-awash-with-illegal-r134a/

https://ec.europa.eu/consumers/consumers_safety/safety_products/rapex/alerts/?event=viewProduct&reference=A12/0451/19&lng=en

 

Cars are now being filled with propane. Despite cars, fridges, and whole tower blocks bursting into flames this is considered a reduction in greenhouse gasses.  

 

I'm pretty sure that Halfords sell refill/recharge kits, at least they did before I moved out of the UK and I would of thought that a large chain wouldn't readily sell something that was highly illegal and easy to prosecute/fine them over?

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Depends on the refrigerent gas used. IIRC CFC's are no longer used and have been replaced with HFC's that breakk down in the atmosphere and are far less damaging as a refrigerent.

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yeah well

I mean I known people that have very small leaks in their system, they need to refill the A/C system once a year then, they are good to go for a year -  which means the gas leaks out every year. The solution I used, actually fixes the leak, and keeps the gas in the car system, which less leaks on the long run.

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