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A rant about life in Frankfurt

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I would seriously recommend you don't touch it again.

This is very disturbing indeed. The other day my friend's daughter was out at a bar nearby, had 2 small beers. The next thing she knew she was waking up in hospital. Apparently someone had spiked her drink. The scary thing is that the docs said that it was probably one of the substances which you can't detect in the body. They ran various tests and found nothing. She has an idea who it might have been that spiked her drink but of course there's no proof. I just don't know what is so funny about spiking someone's drink. What if she'd been allergic to something and died!!!

 

Even scarier is that this thing isn't just confined to big cities. Where I live is very rural...and now it seems you can't go down to the local for a few bevvies without someone trying to drug you, and that's here in peaceful and tranquil Sweden...a beacon of Europe (supposedly!) :(

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I was told about this by the girls at work after I mentioned that my daughter had started to go to the discos in town. The first few times she went I sat at home worrying that she would come back OK. It is a serious problem but thankfully, the kids who go seem to know the rules of what not and what to do.

 

@Eric the Vicar: isn't it way past your bedtime?

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I had a similiar problem a while back now until the Bishop bought me a jumbo pack of viagra.

Yes, I think I read about that story in the papers. Those poor choirboys. Still I suppose the two of you believed you were doing the right thing.

Thanks for the kind offer, but I will keep it natural if it's all the same to you.

 

Jean-Pierre

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Incidentally, while we're on the subject, a good friend of mine was drugged and raped. Not really very funny at all.

 

Jean-Pierre

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Bishop bought me a jumbo pack of viagra
Yes, I think I read about that story in the papers. Those poor choirboys. Still I suppose the two of you believed you were doing the right thing.

Now then John-Pierre - I do hope you're not indulging in a bit of Bishop bashing? :D

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It's amazing what you can find on the internet. I don't know who it's by, but I thought this seemed quite appropriate to the subject

 

Jean-Pierre

 

The Lord moves in mysterious ways his wonders to perform

 

He sometimes sees a sleeping child, peaceful in her bed

Her skin is soft, her hair is gold, her lips are tender red.

With gentle hands he blocks her mouth and holds her little nose

He whispers to her as she kicks, "Be quiet my little rose"

And when she stops he knows she's gone. He rapes her in her bed.

He leaves her there, alone and cold. Mummy's angel's dead.

 

The Lord moves in mysterious ways his wonders to perform

 

He often goes to Africa to get a bit of sun

He walks around the little towns greeting everyone

He sees the coming famine and ponders for a while

"Another year of drought, I think" he orders with a smile

He listens to the screams of babes and children wafer thin

And when the meagre crops are ripe he sends the locusts in

 

The Lord moves in mysterious ways his wonders to perform

 

Every now and then he likes to chill and have a lark

He packs in work, takes it easy, hangs out in the park

He lights a spliff and from his mates he scores a little speed

He shares a needle spiked with AIDS to satisfy their need

And when he has no money left he steals from all his friends

To buy the crack and heroin on which his life depends

 

The Lord moves in mysterious ways his wonders to perform

 

He smiles upon the evil, and smiles upon the good

He doesn't help the righteous, as you might think he would

He sometimes kills a virgin and sometimes saves a whore

He doesn't differentiate between the ones who love him more

So if you think you'll pray to God, think once again because

He doesn't care, he isn't there, and probably never was

 

But don't be fooled and think you might as well be bad

There's pride in looking back upon the honest life you've had

And saying that I never caused a total stranger pain

By stealing everything they had for my own selfish gain

I never made another human cry themselves to sleep

Because she'd never read her daughter, the rhyme about Bo Peep

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Interesting thread.

 

Just a pity I wasn't around at the right time to post my own opinions, although at least 90% of my opinions have been covered by other posts, would have been nice to have been able to post at the appropriate point.

 

It's a hard life being stuck on site comissioning! :angry:

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The Lord moves in mysterious ways his wonders to perform

Isn't that German word order?

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Some fairly strong opinions here, which is unsurprising given the subject matter.

The bottom line is that being on the streets without hope of any kind in your life is a shit situation to be in however you got there.

My experience of seeing this sort of stuff is restricted to Frankfurt + Bensheim (which is pretty mild compared to Frankfurt) over here, and Glasgow/ London / Edinburgh/ Manchester in the Uk.

I can only speculate on this, but I suspect Frankfurt is mild compared to some parts of the developing world.

As an infrequent visitor to Frankfurt I agree that the area round the HBF has got worse in terms of freakish / disturbing sights to be seen. London has the same problem only bigger, but they are better at hiding the problem from public gaze. Is it better to hide the problem? That's a tricky one.

The strangest thing I find - and this is just a personal opinion - is that I never feel threatened or at risk from any of these guys in Frankfurt. Can't say the same when I'm over working in London and out late in the evening.

Edinburgh, where I lived for 12 years, is very good at containing the drugs problem in the peripheral "schemes" (see Trainspotting). As for Glasgow, where I come from, well you can sometimes just be in the wrong place at the wrong time. Best to give anyone there who looks the worse from drugs (or drink) a wide berth.

I'd be prepared to bet a large sum of money that the junkies etc will be quietly moved on elsewhere before the World Cup gets going...and then they'll quietly drift back afterwards.

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I went on a visit to Frankfurt a few months ago and I agree that the area around the station isn't nice but how about Kings Cross in London or Zoo station in Berlin - are they any better? The people in Frankfurt actually seemed much less scummy and provincial and far more civilised and better looking than the Leipzig folk.

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And another thing - at least there are good jobs to be had in Frankfurt - they're extremely thin on the ground in this part of Germany

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Central stations in big cities are, unfortunately, always shady.

I have seen people smocking crack here near the HBF a few years ago but I think it's been cleaned up a bit since.

At any rate, compared to the central station in Milano (Italy), the HBF here is a 5 stars hotel. That's the city I was born in, and I am not happy to see how rundown it is.

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I think the skag heads in Frankfurt tend to keep a lot amongst themselves, which I prefer to being hounded by someone after a late night at work.

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Have to say I agree with Willy on this one completely (even though he last posted this thread in 2005). ...then I noticed he was also from Vancouver, hehe. After living in the same city as the downtown-eastside Hastings crew, my first impression of Frankfurt was honestly that its quite clean. I find the panhandlers, homeless people and junkies (the few I even see) to be very unintrusive and laid back compared to Vancouver. They don't chase and follow you with long crazy stories and then swear at you when you try to buy them the coffee they begged for instead of just giving them the $1.50.

I also agree that its sick and wrong to just try to sweep the problem under the rug. Your biggest problem is that you have the inconvienience of having to actually see something that is not pretty? Imagine what their biggest problem is. Consider yourself lucky. If you it really disturbs you then try to really help it in some way, not just "clean it up". There are organizations that and people that are dedicated to this.

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Quiet an interesting thread..:)

Some really strong opinions and variegated points of view that are perhaps very close and / or far off from the roots of the problem of addiction, society and the individual.

 

Nevertheless, I can recollect vividly, on several ocassions, whilst taking the number 14 bus in Vancouver, which runs from the Burnaby area downtown through Hastings all the way to UBC, that there would always be one or two fellows taking a dump or peeing on the bus with delight, glee, abandonment and impunity.

Anyone here who has lived in Vancouver, can also recollect the absurd crowd that hangs out at the corner of Main Street and Hastings..! it pales in comparison to anything one might see here in any German city.

 

Casual observation might just indicate the problem of addiction, but a real deep closer inquiry as to why people find themselves within such a predicament or what pushes individuals towards such a direction in life would reveal a completely different picture.

 

In any case it is a deep problem requiring a comprehensive outlook at the multiple factors creating this spectacular phenomena affecting societies and individuals.

 

Perhaps, if the moral and ethical aspects could also be clearly and objectively distinguished from the psychosomatic and biological aspects of this social phenomena it might be possible to evaluate the problem correctly against other actions and activities of the individual in relation to society.

 

It might be surprising to find out that, perhaps the actions of a drug addict which as a society, we are ceremoniously and self-righteously condemning may not be so deadly and damaging to society in comparison say to the actions of the human warmonger, or the human billionaire who, deprives societies of the possibilities of freedom, happiness and peace, by cleverly controlling the means of existence, that is by amassing and hoarding money, goods, food, housing et cetera.

 

The point,

Whilst our opinions and thoughts might be very interesting to air and share, the important points that as individuals we should remember, is that in the overall context of cause and effect regarding society, our individual opinions and thoughts are always helping to shape and define actions and policies in the governance of society and man.

So in other words, equal, objective and critical scrutiny ought to be given to every human action and phenomena so there is a balance somehow.

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